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Comment by armadyl | Hacker News Reader

I'm not sure what the OP does, but at least for me I find myself chained to Google Voice for SMS 2FA use because it's basically the only phone number provider that cannot be exploited with a sim swap attack (same deal with Google Fi). And while I don't necessarily trust Google, their account security is leagues ahead of anyone else imo.

I previously looked at jmp.chat but they didn't really inspire confidence on the security front.

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My use cases include 2FA and I like the added security that Voice provides, but it's not really added security, it's just moving the risk from your cell provider to Google. IMHO, Google does security better than the cell providers do.

I like the muti-platform integration of Voice. I use it on my iPad, on my Android phone, and mostly from my desktop. It works well on all platforms.

When I'm at home, I mainly use my VoIP phones. GV forwards to them, and they spoof my GV numbers when I make outgoing calls.

I like the spam text and call protections that GV provides. I believe they're partnered and integrated with Nomorobo.

I also have jmp.chat. It has capabilities that GV doesn't have, but it's not well integrated. (I use Cheogram on my Android phone, but there's no easily usable client on my iPad, or my desktop.)

> it's just moving the risk from your cell provider to Google

Yeah and imo Google has better account access controls than any other mobile provider, especially if you enroll in the Advanced Protection Program.

The main downside of GV that I didn't have with jmp.chat is that numbers are almost guaranteed to be detected as VOIP which sucks but whatever.

Not affiliated and never used them, but Cape (https://www.cape.co/) says they protect against SIM swaps with private keys.

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