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It's pretty pathetic when the best argument you can make is a whataboutism that isn't even equivalent.

If "led by the nose into bombing Iran" isn't being "owned by Israel," what is?

It totally is. Democrats got led into Israel's wars too. Interestingly the support was different, like Trump got money from the Adelsons and Biden from pro-Israel lobbies.

> Democrats got led into Israel's wars too.

Which ones?

Have people already forgot about Gaza?

The US was involved in Gaza? The United States was actively spending billions dropping munitions there? When? Under which administration was the US directly involved in bombing Gaza?

Can you further clarify how the US was involved in the war in Gaza, and how that was the Democrats getting involved? And do you really feel that involvement was anywhere near what is happening or comparable with Iran at the moment?

Syria, Gaza, and even Iran.

Obama's drone campaigns, although that's less a war and more just global terrorism.

Parent comment isn't a whataboutism, if anything my comment could be seen as that. My point isn't to defend Trump's actions, only to call out that this is a scarier problem than it gets credit for when someone just blames MAGA. We're dealing with a two-front assault here, and they want you to think it's just the other party you don't like.

My comment was trying to emphasize the parent's point, I was referring to the grandparent as whataboutism. It was a tad unclear.

I wish america would stop sending money to israel, for a bunch of reasons. That desire is most likely to be realized by a strong democrat majority.

We've had a Democrat majority plenty of times in the past several decades, including under Biden, and they continued the unconditional support. When congresswoman Omar called out AIPAC's influence, nearly every other Dem joined in on a written condemnation. If anything they're just less blatant than Republicans about this, also some pro-Israel groups have a niche with one party or the other.

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