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> The number of teenagers graduating from American high schools peaked last year.

The article doesn't seem to mention foreigners - particularly Chinese. Are those numbers expected to grow or shrink?

Under the current admin's policies shrink. After that who knows.

That's really the key problem facing US universities, from land-grant colleges to the Ivies: everyone depends at least in part on closing budgetary gaps with global students who pay full freight. Current Administration policies, both specifically targeted at foreign students and more generally at higher education and immigration, are poisoning the seed corn colleges and universities rely on. The only good news, relatively speaking, is that Europe is evidently constitutionally incapable of taking advantage of what is a genuinely one-in-an-imperial-lifetime chance to drain intellectual capital from the United States, which means that America and our higher education system can recover from this, should we have the fortitude to do so in the future -- there just isn't much in the way of competition.

> with global students who pay full freight

Some do, some pay nothing: https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2023/05/31/minnesota...

Those are not global students. Those are people who are already living in the state. Foreign students typically pay the most tuition possible with no financial aid, subsidizing everyone else.

so all those foreign students could become "not foreign" by merely coming here for a tourist visit and overstaying? Quite the idea. I will suggest to a few college-age friends to claim to be illegal. Why pay more when you can pay less? Plus, there is no way to verify a LACK of citizenship or of SSN.

> Europe is evidently constitutionally incapable of taking advantage of what is a genuinely one-in-an-imperial-lifetime chance to drain intellectual capital from the United States

Perhaps you're already implying this, but for Europe to drain intellectual capital from the US, it would have to offer a hell of a lot more than cheap college for foreign students.

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