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Yea, they nailed that with the Newton, Apple Pippin, and the Apple Vision Pro

The Vision Pro was a Development Kit; Just like the first generation Apple Watch. It's not meant for the consumers, it's meant for the developers among the consumers.

We will see if they ever release a new VisionOS device, but it's not the first time they did that; see also the Apple Watch.

You can explain away every failed product launch with "it's a developer product", not meant for consumers.

This wasn't like HoloLens or Google Glass. They marketed these devices to consumers and then sold these devices to consumers.

A development kit wouldn't have a dedicated section of sofas in Apple stores for demoing them.

How amazing is that Apple car

Depending on price I would or would not buy an Apple car; but I am quite interested in options for a car that (1) is electric; (2) doesn't spy on me and sell my data; (3) doesn't take video of me and my passengers and do weird things with it; and (4) doesn't support Republicans / white supremacists / Elon Musk.

And I imagine that like-minded consumers are a pretty large market.

(5) Doesn't support a dictatorship with camps.

Knowing Apple's track history with materials, I guess the seats will look like used iPad Smart Keyboard Folios after two years.

It has an excellent reputation of having no reported accidents!

My regular tow truck driver tells me he sees all sorts; fords, audis, mercedes, teslas, even the odd exotic car like a lambo - but never once an apple car would you believe it.

Invisible car.

Apple learned to hang back from plowing the unsold Lisa's into a landfill.

The Vision Pro is the best AR/VR product ever created.

All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't come up with a killer app.

I think it was $1000 too expensive to take off. It’s also too heavy, they should drop the front screen and ruthlessly save weight.

Chicken and egg problem, if no-one buys it, no-one will develop any killer apps.

Whether it’s pleasant to have any screens that close to your eyes - or ever will be - is maybe the bigger question for VR.

> Chicken and egg problem, if no-one buys it, no-one will develop any killer apps.

Disagree on this. Going back as far as VisiCalc, it's about a device making space for a killer app, and that killer app selling devices. Apple has torched so much developer good-will that even a lower price wouldn't make the space for a killer app.

When was the last time a new, mobile-first killer app came out?

You missed Taligent, Opendoc, A/UX, Mk Linux, Copland,...

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