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Hungary's Orban, a Beacon to the Right Wing, Concedes Election Defeat

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Again!? The Hungarians just can't stop winning!

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Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47743553

Looking forward to Hungary winning Eurovision this year. :) (not joking - it's completely political - people that don't vote in their national elections vote in Eurovision)

This is fantastic news!

It is. This is fairly significant. Congratulations to the Hungarian people.

Truly a great day for the Hungarian people, for Europe, and for the free world. Congrats, and thank you for doing your part, Hungary!

https://archive.ph/jjKHe

It should be noted the victorious party with a super majority is hardly left wing. Like other non Hungarians I'm glad, but the substantial questions around Hungarian postures to the EU, towards migrants, persisting antisemitism remain.

How this affects geopolitics by removing a bloated Tic of pro Russian propaganda and veto voting is worth watching. I'm hopeful it has some immediate effect regarding funds and support for Ukraine, but Poland and Slovakia remain.

It's good to be hopeful. It's good to be realistic.

The fact that Orban is called Viktor as his first name meant your first sentence confused me greatly for a second.

"The Victor" would be like "The Donald"

> How this affects geopolitics by removing a bloated Tic of pro Russian propaganda and veto voting is worth watching. I'm hopeful it has some immediate effect regarding funds and support for Ukraine, but Poland and Slovakia remain.

I don't follow, Poland is anti-Russian and pro-Ukraine. Where do you see the similarity between Orban regime and current Poland government ?

Both governments are (were?) similarly right-wing. Poland's is indeed pro-Ukraine but also very pro-Trump.

The pro-Trump government has lost the last parliamentary election in 2023. The new one is still rather on the right side, but it's a coalition of several parties, none of which goes as far right as the previous gov (and one even has "left" in its name, though it's centre-left at best) and it's definitely not pro-Trump.

Poland is very anti-Trump, just like the rest of Europe. However, the current president is from a right-wing fraction that decided to support Trump and now has a very hard time explaining to their votes his every crazy move.

The right-wing isn't exactly known for being internally consistent and easy to follow, but the current Polish president that has been recently elected comes from a right-wing environment that's allied with Orban. That said, the president does not have a lot of power in Poland and what he does have mostly comes from the ability to obstruct the government's work with vetoes.

It is testament to the power of propaganda in Europe that being euroskeptic or anti-immigration is deemed a "wrong opinion" at official level troughout the continent... in French there is a famous expression for this unique "correct" opinion across the board: pensée unique (single thought).

The strength of vote suggests that we're not looking at popular euroscepticism, but at a popular rejection of Orbans vision of Hungary in europe.

Orban went beyond scepticism. He went pretty deep in another direction. He had to construct myths, confect crises to do it and they appear to have benefited one specific power bloc opposed to Europe.

I commented in general, not specifically Orban or this election, although the whole "EU machine" has indeed been working hard against him all these years in a way that does not make me comfortable.

~78% voter turnout. Democracy won!

Just ask JD Vance to speak for any right wing party's support. That'll fix that...

Unless you're the pope. Don't let him near you if you're the pope...

It's kinda gross that the Nazi lite Kremlin-backed party currently has 54 seats and the Nazi equivalent party has 7 so far. And it's not like Tisza isn't neoliberal-neocon, pro-billionaire, and pro-privatization as it's nothing like a liberal democracy progressive party at all.

Maybe Elon, JD, and Orbán should tour all together and bring some Putin portraits with them to inspire support?

The silver lining to the Trump presidency is that other countries get to see what a modern far-right government looks like before condemning their own country to the same fate.

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