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Tesla's supervised self-driving software gets Dutch okay, first in Europe

reuters.com

38 pointsnsoonhui19 comments

“Supervised self-driving” feels like an oxymoron. It’s either safe enough to be completely autonomous or it’s not. There’s no way a human driver being assisted by self-driving is going to be ready to take over at a moments notice with the same awareness that they would have if they were driving the whole time. This is going to kill people.

No, it’s not.

This solution went through millions of kilometres of data and tests.

RDW did a really thorough job since we’re talking about Europe: https://www.rdw.nl/en/news/2026/rdw-explanation-of-european-...

Stop. Spreading. FUD.

Of course it is not. I also do "supervised self driving". In fact, everybody does it. The fact that Tesla drivers are only now able to do it, tell us something about their driving abilities.

Stop. Spreading. FUD /s

So if you say BS you can just add /s and it’s fine?

RDW tested it themselves. That isn't real world usage. Real world drivers will not pay the same attention, and they'll do stupid shit like game the driver attention mechanism so they can watch TikTok.

This is FUD. Supervised means that the camera watches you in realtime keeping attention.

But I get this type of comments just to go against one person.

Yes. And people will find a way to game it like they always do.

> the camera watches you in realtime keeping attention

If this is the world you want there's literally no common ground here

How else would you determine whether the driver is paying attention?

> RDW said the EU sets stricter requirements for safety during vehicle approvals than the U.S. "This means that the FSD Supervised version in the U.S. is NOT comparable to the FSD Supervised version in the EU," it said, without providing further details.

The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world. More info on differences between USA and NL on the site of RDW (Dutch)

https://www.rdw.nl/nieuws/2026/toelichting-rdw-op-europese-t...

> The Netherlands has one of the highest road safety standards in the world.

But the Dutch are still not able to drive safely on the Autobahn.

More like third in Europe after BMW and Ford, according to https://electrek.co/2026/04/10/tesla-fsd-supervised-approved...

First here relates to the first country that approved. Other OEMs already have hands off level two systems, nobody disputes that.

No article has mentioned insurance rates. I would not be surprised if this has consequences for that. I'm not saying this as good or bad but as insurers being cautious as the liability question in civil procedures ultimately comes to them.

In the US there are insurance companies that will give you a discount for each mile you drive with FSD enabled. That should give you an it’s on the impact…

I wonder how this will pan out. In the Netherlands roads are mixed with old people walking their dog and children on bicycles going to school. We're not in Phoenix anymore.

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