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I mean, their damn phone keyboards are so bad I'm 100% confident that Tim only does voice to text on his phone. There's no way that the CEO of a company could use a keyboard that horrible and not want to fix it.

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It’s SO bad. It makes me not want to use my phone anymore and physically go get my laptop if I’m chatting/messaging someone.

It’s probably the worst typing experience I’ve had since resistive-touch screens on PDAs. At least with them you could still type what you intended to though, just slowly.

The behavior of the iOS keyboard also showcases how there must not be many decision-making people who communicate in multiple languages.

If Tim used speech to text we’d be at least testing SotA local voice models in the iOS betas

Starting to wonder what he DOES use. I guess just the cameras since they seem to be the only things that change.

He's a gazillionaire, he has people to interact with phones for him

But how to become a 2-gazillionaire, or even reach 3 gazillion, without feedback loops?

I guess it doesn't matter, or not enough to forfeit competing opportunities. If we deal with bugs so they could build the Neo maybe it's OK.

Most of my issues were fixed when I disabled swipe to type. Not all, but most.

I've heard this advice before and I've tried it, and I really didn't notice a difference. I also, unfortunately, use swipe to type a lot. If I'm typing one handed I'm pretty much always using swipe. Sure it barely works, but that's the same as if I was typing normally so feels like a wash.

Keyboard works fine. Always has. iPhone just has so many users that there's going to be a plethora of passionate unpleasable nerds for every single facet of it. Even in your ideal virtual keyboard version, there was an army of people complaining that it wasn't a hardware keyboard.

okay.

I’ve never really disliked the keyboard. I’m not entirely sure what they’re talking about. That being said I’ve never used swipe to text so maybe that factors in, or never having had a smartphone other than an iPhone.

If you had ever used Swype on Android (it was only briefly on iOS, and wasn't as good as the Android version yet), you would understand how good keyboards could be 10-12 years ago. Perfect precise cursor placement. Cut, copy, paste, and select shortcuts. It was not perfect, but it was rapidly getting there.

Microsoft bought and killed it without, apparently, learning from it. Maybe there was a good reason why, but I've never seen one.

No it doesn’t.

It did work fine before. But I had to swipe 3 times to get “fine” instead of “going” just now

Fine fine fine seems to be working fine with swipe and normal, idk dude, maybe y'all are just aging ungracefully

This is misinformation, please provide sources to your claims. The iOS keyboard degraded in the latest versiond.

https://www.macworld.com/article/2952872/heres-proof-that-th...

Source, my thumb typing this flawlessly with one try.

Nice strawman, and unnecessary attack. I'm using iPhones since the 3GS, and from time to time type on an Android and the keyboard on iOS _sucks_. As someone else wrote, I am loathing to chat with someone on the phone and rather switch to my laptop.

Nice appeal to been using the phone for long time, but i waited in line for the original so you’ll have to defer to me

keyboard's fine

no macro support is not fine for me but wouldn't want grandma to have it so hmm

In case anyone else is going crazy trying to find this setting, it’s called slide to type

AHH thank you!!

This, along with circle to search (for translating, mainly) are the current main things pushing me to stay on Android.

Why are you paying money for something that you find so terrible when there is a perfectly good alternative.

Life is too short to waste is using junk you don’t enjoy.

Whats the alternative? Android not, because it's absolutely not perfectly good

In my experience iOS 26.4 did largely fix it btw. Update if you haven’t already.

I'm on 26.4 on a brand new 17 Pro Max, recently upgraded from a 13 Pro Max, and I have noticed absolutely no difference in the keyboard. It's still awful.

But then you'd have to upgrade past 18, meaning the liquid glass abomination.

was only dumb for a month or few, now that it's max blacked out as best it can be I can redirect my focus... and be annoyed by the STUPID hiding bottom menus like in Photos.

Literally ZERO times did I complain I was missing seven pixels of "real estate", thanks Apple, love the extra tap to see what I need

(to be clear, only sign on iOS 26, NOT macOS 26)

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