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Why the Dark Forest Hypothesis Probably Isn't True

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Entanglement allows instantaneous communications without propagation, thus the primary signals we look for are not used.

All life has this ability (see snail telegraph) it simply isn’t as useful or efficient for organisms as one imagines (we aren’t computers however we are a technology.)

Further, consumerism and consumer-topia is not as popular. Most life in the universe stays at a feudal level even when the ruling elite discover and adopt technological advancement.

From the stories I’m getting (I know I know), civilizations apparently rise and fall without ever discovering radio communications or mass production. Other civilizations do not achieve advanced space worthy technology until after their planets are so old they can no longer support civilization. The only two other space faring civilizations I am aware of other than our own develop this level of advancement only after their destruction was imminent.

Consider that evolved intelligence does not necessarily mean advanced technology.

And those who do absolutely learn the benefits of silence. Who would master telemetry and neglect their own leakage?

We only assume everyone else must be like us.

And btw the “civilizing accord” is LAW. There are those who respect “law” and there are those who do not. Which are we?

> Entanglement allows instantaneous communications without propagation, thus the primary signals we look for are not used.

No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem

> during the measurement of an entangled quantum state, it is impossible for one observer to transmit information to another observer, regardless of their spatial separation.

Firstly, are you omitting that not one or two, ten billion entanglements may share one information vector space.

I laugh at how tiny your mind thinks of what is happening.

There is a holographic potential within every quantum domain (of various scale and practicality) which may behave as quantum memory. This is an “infinit” scalar vector space, however it decays everywhere at the edges and only through MASS ENTANGLEMENT may one maintain a stable quantum hologram. Every single actor can immediately through passive differential see the hologram in real time, everywhere in the Universe!

This hologram is the future of quantum computing and will enlighten our discussions of “consciousness”. The qubit is good science and engineering, yet it is a dead end. “You can’t get there from here!”

Your understanding of quantum communications is as under considered as this one part of the topic.

Wouldn't predators have worked out how to fake-announce themselves, from a different solar system to ones they occupy, and then destroy anyone who approached it and revealed their home systems ?

It’s not a hypothesis it’s a strategy. There are multiple viable strategies that organisms (and civilizations) could use. Some will work. Some will not.

The question is: what is the nature of the neighborhood? The answer so far is: empty as far as we can tell. Utterly empty and silent.

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