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Thank you. I hardly get to explain the techology I 'invent' (power chips, power router, parallel battery charger, car firmware, charging (station) software, simulation software) because the investors customers only want to hear that its cheaper or sells better (then Tesla). Or that besides going from 4000 to 20000 dis/charge cycles you also prevent any li-ion fires and have fire alarm sensors on every battery cell. The main thing I would like to shout from the rooftops is: Not a single battery on the planet charges their battery cells in parallel as we do, they all shorten their cell lifetime by charging/discharging them to fast in series, what will damage all battery cell types but especially the li-ion.

It is the same with the article we are commenting on here: if people just listen to the statistics, the simulations and the actual market developments they would see that 100% solar+battery is the cheapest energy.

The simple message is Solar is by far the cheapest energy: below 1 dollar cent per kWh and that will fall a lot more in the next decade until we get to 'a squanderable abundance of free and clean energy' as Bob Metcalf puts it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axfsqdpHVFU Batteries still double the cost of that solar but these prices are falling rapidly too. It is already cheaper to have solar nearby than transmit it over a distance of a few miles.

More in my earlier comments weeks and months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=morphle

Why are the prices in the USA so much higher?

Also: when we last spoke you were talking about energy storage solutions. How has that progressed recently?

$0,01 per kWh from solar, that is the price worldwide on the condition that they sell you the panels at a reasonable price and don't overcharge you on all the other parts like micro-inverters, field or rooftop installation, permitting and labour. That adds up to around 5 cent for rooftop solar in Australia for example (including everything). 1 cent is for solar panels lasting 50 years (with 20% degradation over decades), we refer to such prices as Levelised Cost Of Energy (LCOE) over lifetime. It halved in the last 10 years for solar and it will halve again (20% cost reduction on each doubling of manufactured capacity). Similar for batteries, they also go down around 20% each year.

1 kWh Wind, or Hydro, Thermal and other renewables do not go down as much in cost price because they have mechanical or chemical components that do not last as long as solar cells and need maintenance and repair.

We keep the cost low by group buying in bulk at wholesale prices (a shipping container with 770 panels for 20-30 houses) with our coop instead of premium installer prices by the electrotechnical or building companies. If you let our Fiberhood coöperative in the US install your solar, batteries, tiny house or eCamper you do not pay these high tariffs, we have enough panels pre-tariff. So you still can hit 1 cent per kWh but only if you get the decent installers and sellers.

Our energy storage solutions have widened. First you timeshift all electricity use of the car, house or neighborhood into daylight hours when the sun shines. This means a bunch of electronics and software changes. Next we build termal storage solutions, you can store heat much cheaper than electricity. You move heat around with a heat pump. Or you heat your water tank with a datacenter computer in your water tank (for free). In summer you store solar electricity in ice. Or you store it in iron, aluminum, glass or silicon by melting ore and purifying, You embodied the solar electricity into the purified ore. In northern and southern latitudes you need 10 to 50 times more solar panels to heat houses during cold winters. This means you have large overcapacity in summer that you can sell as embodied iron, etc. Batteries are only needed to store for the hours there is no sunlight during 24 hours, no need to store longer. The cheapest place is to store it in the electrical cars in your neighborhood. That is why we install our own brand ev car chargers in the neighborhood of the panels. In contrast, Tesla chargers overcharge you a factor of 34 to 76 and that's partially because its fossil energy and transmitted over hundreds of miles.

My message is that to reach 1 cent per kWh we need to solar electrify all our infrastructure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEOPx2X-EtE

Also Trump doubling solar panel prices with tarifs and shutting down subsidies is wrong, it makes it much more expensive. Add an oil third world war however does help, we sold double solar, batteries and evs in the last month.

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