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The affiliate information shows that it the website shows mostly / only affiliate offers, and omits (intentionally?) much better a lternatives like posteo.de for email. Listed vendors like OVHcloud must follow the US cloud act, so not really independent from US.

Just advertising, no real privacy focused.

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This post needs to be flagged, this is pure affiliate spam and not at all what HN is meant for. Doubt the guy is even European at this point. An email @ dang wouldn't be out of place either for anyone with the time.

OVHcloud US is a separate entity, European & other region are not subject to the US cloud act.

You need separate account for service in US vs services in EU

Domain is registered 23 March 2026. This is not a real product, with zero effort put into it.

Perhaps they spent considerable effort putting the data set etc together, and subsequently decided to launch as a standalone domain. I wouldn’t take registration date as the final arbiter of seriousness

The domain registration date doesn’t tell anything about the amount of effort put in it. I usually register the domains of my side-projects only when I’m at 80% done; otherwise I would buy dozens of domains I would never use.

The website uses Cloudflare for hosting. If they were just even a little bit serious, they wouldn’t have used a US provider for hosting.

If you were just a little bit serious you wouldn’t be discussing this on a site run by Y-Combinator!

(the “angry” comments are so tiring)

But he doesn't advocate for US alternatives here?

They’re pointing out the hypocrisy in this website. The comment itself isn’t hypocritical as they haven’t taken a stance on US versus EU services.

They didn’t explicitly point to hypocrisy as the thing that makes it “unserious.” Actually I think a lot of serious projects are a little bit hypocritical, a little bit of hypocrisy is often the cost of contact with reality.

In this case it isn’t even clear where the hypocrisy comes from, though. It’s a service for looking up other services. Does it even handle any PII?

If you want to help orgs who have come to the conclusion they need to diversify to EU services, it does not mean you have to have come to the same conclusion! Also, it's not the same kind of dependency if you get or buy something one-off from a website like this, as if you build your org on top of a single platform/jurisdiction.

Sure, but I was not talking about that.

The domain registration in this context is just proof that the website doesn't have any community value. As for the amount of effort, I took a look at the HTML source of the page, and it looks like the person who released it doesn't really understand the technology he uses, even on a website level.

My opinion is therefore that this amount of effort is not nearly enough to hold our discussion here.

Maybe it was added in the meanwhile, but I see Posteo under email. Also, disputable if Posteo is really better, as it highly depend on your requirements. I dismissed it for some reason when choosing and went with mailbox.org, which is also listed.

The information is also not stating that all links are affiliate, just that the site does contain them and some might make them money.

Posteo is really good - switched there years ago from gmail and never looked back.

I was looking into Posteo a while back but was turned off by the recycling of addresses. After leaving the service it's available to anyone after a fixed time.

Posteo does not allow custom domains, which is an immediate nope from me. E-mail is the last place where I want vendor lock-in.

A 3 hour old HN account btw.

I found it super suspicious that this post has raised to the very top of the frontpage when it was posted.

Not sure if baseless accusations of vote manipulation are ok here though, so I didn't comment on it.

If this site actually provided privacy-preserving recommendations, there are many of us in the U.S. who would (or should?) also be interested in these services. Sadly, this is SPAM.

Good point. Nonetheless alternatives are needed.

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