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Why on God's green earth is Windows running on the Artemis spaceship?

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They're not on God's green earth anymore, now are they?

It’s also blue, not green.

touche!

British nuclear subs were running Windows XP until at least 2017. It's easy to google, but the best article about it is No, Trident doesn't run on windows XP (https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-trident-doesnt-run-window...), which ironically makes it very clear that Trident subs were running on Windows XP and had no plans to replace it.

Most UK government excuse: "The programme undertaken by the Royal Navy and BAE Systems to equip the fleet with a Windows-based command system was completed in just 18 days."

Translated: "You couldn't do better in 18 days, so you don't have a right to worry or criticize. Also, don't ask why this was pushed off until the last 18 days of the project."

Because we're talking about an off-the-shelf laptop here, not a flight computer.

What should they use for email?

Alpine & Linux?

Are you running that on a flight system or on an additional computer where it would be fine to run Windows?

The entire point is to avoid an OS like windows; and an email client like Outlook?

Yeah I get the point, I'm saying it's not really a good point, running Windows and Outlook on a secondary system is fine. Forcing the astronauts to learn to use some other system would be a waste of time and probably worse than whatever it is you see as the problem.

Most probably it can’t connect to the server without running IT-mandated security software that runs only on Windows

FYI Alpine: https://github.com/realpine/alpine Not Alpine Linux, too late to edit to clarify

Literally anything else. In 1992 we did email on the command line with green screen terminals

Pine

I am still using mutt.

Huh, back in the 2001/2002 timeframe I worked at an old company that gave everyone a Windows laptop but us engineers also had UNIX accounts on the server cluster, which we logged into for dev work.

Our company was hit with one of the worms (don’t remember which). Thousands of emails constantly coming in and everyone scrambling to delete them - except people like me, who were on vacation. I returned to an inbox that instantly crashed Outlook. IT was trying to find a solution. But I logged into the UNIX cluster, opened Pine, and deleted all the crap, page by page. When I got most of it done, Outlook started working again.

IT was shocked but then told everyone else to go do what I did, eliminating their need to do any work. So I guess you win some and you lose some..

Couldn't you delete or filter /var/spool/mail?

ILOVEYOU was in 2000 and behaved that way. I remember we just shut off our Exchange servers until there was a fix. Email was still new enough that the world didn't implode.

Why do they “need” email access in the first place?! What the actual fuck.

Why the poverty mindset? If we are gonna joy ride around the moon we should at least do it in style.

The poverty mindset is that you still need to check your mail while riding around the moon. Style would be no email at all.

They're officers and researchers strapped into their seats for 10 days, what could they be doing that doesn't involve email

Research with the data they’ve collected so far?

This hurts my brain so very much, the idea that email is necessary in outer space — I just threw up in my mouth a little.

wow imagine that, astronauts having to communicate with the outer world??? that's insane....

Traditionally, officers would probably be working on their powerpoint slide decks.

I wonder if they've checked for any rogue sharepoint instances yet...

Play minesweeper or solitaire...

Corresponding with family members? What do you want them to use, Teams?

Is this a serious question

Because Microsoft is an American company, and Linux is some kind of a communist daycare center.

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