B2B:
Look at chefkoch.de
They do use the REWE API, and I'm guessing not without their knowledge
B2C: Is it really surprising that a busines has no interest in providing more price transparency to their customers?
B2C: Is it really surprising that a busines has no interest in providing more price transparency to their customers?
The owners of German supermarket and car companies are really the richest of the rich in Germany (okay and maybe the SAP guy on top). It would definitely be a net positive if someone manages to scrape and compare their prices.
In the restaurant market it's one player abusing many small players.
And honestly, I think the reason everyone cries when "Amazon launches an API" is because Amazon would not dare to piss off the German supermarket oligopoly.
There's a few projects doing that for DE / AT at least.
The issue is that each market sets their own prices and I believe REWE is the only large one where you can fairly easily scrape the product catalogue. I thought about it in a shopping list context, so you'd need to make it location dependent to be useful. But you could do a lot of cool things with it. Like choose a basket of goods and it creates a route for you: "Go to supermarket A and buy goods XYZ, then to supermarket B and buy ABC"
Might I suggest you remove your tin-foil hat and consider that:
- 99% of REWE customers almost certainly have no clue what an API is
- 99% of the remaining 1% know what an API is, but their day-job involves messing with APIs, so they don't want to spend their weekend-time messing with the REWE API, they just want to do their shopping at REWE.
- The final 0.1% are those who come on HN and pretend its all some sort of big conspiracy to minimise transparency by $evil_corp. :)
Do you really want the price of your shopping to increase because REWE now needs to find money to pay for a helpdesk for the millions of B2C API users ?
Businesses and services differentiating between B2C and B2B is nothing new, that is why the two different terminologies exist !
What next, you don't want to fill up your car at the petrol station (B2C) but you want to be permitted to buy a barrel crude oil direct from the drill and refine it yourself (B2B) ?
First up: Read and follow the rules. No need to insult me. Especially considering what you said shows that you both misunderstood AND misrepresented what I've said.
And frankly, my reasoning was simply saying "Company won't publicize internal info if they don't get an advantage from doing so". It's literally the same reason Google doesn't publish all of their source code. I'm struggling to see what part you are misunderstanding but it has to be something extremely basic to conclude I'm a conspiracy nut for basically stating "Company acts in their interest".
Opening an API to the public allows third parties to develop apps that can then be consumed by end-consumers. Not trying to be offensive here, but do you know what an API is? To conclude I meant every single end-consumers building their own app is at best disingenuously twisting my words.
Opening the API would allow new players like you and me to enter the market and take a piece of the pie. Why would a market, dominated and controlled by a few big players, opt for that? You don't even need to know that the German grocery market is incredibly price competitive, to understand that.
> If you think about it, imagine if REWE officially exposed an API B2C. This would mean they are obligated to provide support. Can you provide a source for that requirement? I'm pretty sure you just made that up.
> Businesses and services differentiating between B2C and B2B is nothing new, that is why the two different terminologies exist ! At this point I'm entirely lost what you read in my comment. Yes I know. I specifically made that distinction.
> What next, you don't want to fill up your car at the petrol station (B2C) but you want to be permitted to buy a barrel crude oil direct from the drill and refine it yourself (B2B) ? Yeah you definitely misunderstood something... What I said/meant:
The question: Why isn't the API open?
My answer: For B2B I gave an example where the API is used by another German firm, providing an example that the API is indeed consumed B2B.
For B2C: They have no reason to do so. They have a well functioning app where you can order stuff. They have one of the bigger recipe pages (at least it does very well SEO-wise) in Germany where you can immediately order ingredients from a recipe. The biggest recipe page in Germany (chefkoch) offers a direct link from recipes to their order page. Maybe you're missing this info? Thinking it's an internal API to data that isn't exposed anywhere at all would somehow explain whatever you tried to say here. But again, if you're that uninformed, don't insult people.
Here you are wrong too.
If you want to develop an app via an API that is only offered B2B, what do you do ?
Yes, that's right ...
You phone up REWE and negotiate a license to access to the B2B API to develop your application. B2B2C if you want to put it in simpler terms.
My original point stands. REWE clearly do not want to officially expose the API B2C, almost certainly for the exact reasons I already spelled out in my original post.
But no, its easier for you just to spread FUD, claiming "busines has no interest in providing more price transparency to their customers" just because they will not let you have access to the API as direct B2C.
What you describe as B2B2C is exactly what chefkoch does. And it's exactly what I initially said, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. But anyway. Doesn't feel like we're getting anywhere. Have a great day ;)