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Also, socially conservative, multi-generational households (sharing labour and childcare between women relatives), less expectation for mothers of young kids to be away from the home, and a much lower expectation of what "housing" means in terms of both building quality and the amount of living space per person.

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Who expects mothers of young kids in the US to be away from the home?

The economy

Work and wider social participation, and a sprawling suburban geography that has people living far from friends and family.

The alternative - small, crowded population centres where everyone knows everyone and three, even four generations live in the same household can of course be limiting, even suffocating.

But there's a reason why, for all that the 1950s autonomous nuclear family is held up as some kind of ideal by tradwife fetishists, it's also the milieu in which Valium and sleeping pills became popularised.

> Who expects mothers of young kids in the US to be away from the home?

Where in the USA do you live where I can support my wife and kids on one income? We'll move immediately.

Ask single mothers.

A relative of mine bought a house in central Illinois for $90k a few years ago. She's a single mom and works as a bank teller.

There are plenty of places that can be afforded on a single income if you work in tech and can work remotely.

Examples: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10-Regina-Dr-Paris-IL-619... https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/804-N-Walnut-St-Pontiac-I...

Banks still have tellers?

Or at least some customer service people who are in the branches.

Worse. Some people even deleet all of there online banking, except, for an account that can recieve funds from online sources, and then deal with everything in person at the bank. Which then frees up devices to skip the whole closed source misery go round.

Here in NL you can't and there is this massive push to get a smartphone and a banking app. Hardware attestation coming to a device near you soon.

I would never use a bank that required a smartphone in order to access your money or do normal banking activities like transfers and payments. Fortunately here in the USA there are thousands of little mom n pop banks and credit unions, so I think we are safe from that madness at least until I’m dead and buried.

I know people doing this in Prince William County, Cheyenne, and Minnesota college towns. It just takes ordinary frugality, no deprivation that I can see.

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