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Even the supposed narrow ones can be a pain in the arse to actually get in the back.

Every family I see with at least 2 kids has a minivan, so maybe we can discuss if minivans are causal.

I didn’t need the minivan until the third kid appeared. I would have stayed with a sedan as long as possible.

We ran the sedan through 3 but really should have moved to the minivan much earlier; they're just much more practical for almost everything.