Absolutely my bad it came across like this.

I’m not intentionally discouraging it.

The responses are affecting my impression of Microsoft and Github extremely negatively. I don’t think I am alone.

It’s already pretty word salad legalese in my opinion, at least from Github.

>would you prefer to scream into the void and not get any response at all?

At this point, yes. What has false platitudes done except cause more in-fighting?

>an open line of communication with the responsible people

And here's how the in-fighting begins. I'm not falling for the "they responded on social media. They're just like us!" anymore.

I don't want words, I want actions. Tired of playing whack a mole.

>you would rather not hear anything, or get word-salad legalese that doesnt mean anything?

Hearing nothing doesn't waste my time.

> We are not training on the contents of private repos

Supremely ethical of you to ignore the license terms of open source code, but respect the license for proprietary code.

Opt out is horse shit

What am I supposed to opt out of? The only setting in "Privacy" is "Suggestions matching public code" which is blocked and seems wholly unrelated to this.

This too is creepy.

The behavioral impositions by the court in the United States versus Microsoft trial discourage it from Monopoly behavior by opening third-party apis to competitors.

Q: Will Microsoft share its access to users private repos where they have not opted out of this training via its GitHub subsidiary, with third parties (eg OpenAI and Anthropic), in the spirit of its loss to the United States during its trial for Monopoly behavior?

Eg ethically today, Microsoft may be able to be argued to be monopolizing user data for its own AI tooling advantage.

How much has Microsoft paid you to sell your soul?

Yes or No: Hypothetically I put customer data in a private repo, a single file. I use copilot to analyze the file, submitting its contents to that backend. This is the only thing in the repo. Is that data collected and trained on? If the answer is not no, you are lying about what this opt in is.

Opt out is the same as forcing this on people that don’t want it. You know this.

Microslop proving their name time and time again.

why not make it opt-in?

and I wonder if this opt-out applies to data we stored under your umbrella before having opted-out.

Why such strong opposition to getting user consent before doing any of this? Not respecting consent seems to be a very common theme with MS these days, and it really doesn't reflect well on the company or you personally.

IANAL I wonder how that is legal in the EU, at least for private individuals, since under the GDPR you need consent for collecting such data. (A timed opt-out is not consent.)

For low-resource usage, Forgejo has a good reputation: https://forgejo.org

ie you can run it effectively on even a Raspberry Pi

Remember to ensure you have proper backups regardless of whatever you decide to host it on. :)