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I wonder what the alternative for Europe might be? A new project to launch, or is there an existing solution? Siren? Argon? In any case, it could be a great opportunity for Europe to create new jobs whilst increasing its sovereignty.

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Palantir's technology, as its own name suggests, is inherently dangerous, regardless of who controls it. The right alternative is to simply not build capabilities similar to Palantir in the EU - ideally, to legally forbid building them at all. This type of aggregated data flow simply gives too much control to whoever has access to it, and thus greatly harms democracy.

Why?

why would we need to fund and make Europen Alternative to Surveilance (tm) when we could just you know - not have it at all?

SensusQ from Estonia does pretty much this, but is sovereign and data is held by the end-users, not sent to the US (or anywhere else) www.sensusq.com

Even if it's nothing that would be a big win.

d.AP, itemis, datawalk, helsing.

There are a few alternatives, depending what you want.

Did Helsing get its name from the fictional vampire hunter family?

All of them are just as bad a Palantir.

No that's not true, some try to do it by the book ( ai act, gdpr, and follow German law etc) but they won't have any chance on the market, because those who ignore any law will provide more information / control etc for police, state etc etc

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