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Comment by nuancebydefault | Hacker News Reader

The quotation marks are embedded in the emdashes

the notion that "contains —" ~= "AI generated" is a really dumb popular misconception: dashes have existed for hundreds of years. just because many people use them incorrectly or treat the hyphen as if it's some universal dash doesn't change that.

strunk & white taught me to use em dashes in something like elementary or middle school [1] — it's not hard to understand how to use them or type them... i'm baffled as to why people act like this is the case.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style

I've been using a reasonable gamut of Unicode punctuation in English for I think the majority of my life now as well—including this very comment, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19365079 from 2019, and the above comment where I typed a horizontal ellipsis. I tend to attribute it to taking my language usage from relatively formal sources and being a desktop Linux user with a Compose key. I used to constrain myself to ASCII for email and source code, though, and would use TeX-like “--” and “---” and such instead; sometimes I would also just do that when temporarily on some setup where accessing the real stuff was harder.

But then, people have also been asking me whether I'm an AI for over twenty years, so…

this is probably a nit, but i have avoided using the "…" most of the time because the way it renders on iOS is so smushed to me vs "..."

i truly wish the ellipsis just rendered like "dumb ellipsis" does

Like it or not, current LLMs really like em-dashes and so usage of them is quite a lot of bayesian evidence in favor of the author being an LLM. It's unfortunate for the humans who use em-dashes but that's how it is.

perhaps i'll have to try writing them in plaintext form like "---" [^1]

[^1]: proof that i'm not ai lol

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