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Don't you see the massive problem with requiring visual input? Are blind people not intelligent because they cannot solve ARC-AGI-3 without a "harness"?

A theoretical text-only superintelligent LLM could prove the Riemann hypothesis but fail ARC-AGI-3 and won't even be AGI according to this benchmark...

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Well, it would be AGI if you could connect a camera to it to solve it, similar to how blind people would be able to solve it if you restored their eyesight. But if the lack of vision is a fundamental limitation of their architecture, then it seems more fair not to call them AGI.

People blind from birth literally lack the neural circuits to comprehend visual data. Are they not intelligent?

I think they don't actually lack them, or lack only a small fraction (their brains are ≈99% like a normal human brain), such that if they were an AI model, they could be fairly trivially upgraded with vision capability.

I think I can confidently say they are not visually intelligent at all.

If you were phrasing things to quantify intelligence, you would have a visual intelligence pillar. And they would not pass that pillar. It doesn't make them dysfunctional or stupid, but visual intelligence is a key part of human intelligence.

Visual intelligence is a near meaningless term as it's almost entirely dependant on spatial intelligence. The visually impaired do have high spatial intelligence, I wouldn't be surprised if their spatial intelligence is actually higher on average than those without visual impairment.

Think of it as spatial input, not visual. Blind people do have spatial inputs, and high spatial intelligence.

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