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Because not everyone has a knee-jerk emotional reaction to a word when that word can mean something benign aside from its typical FUD connotation.

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I will always have a "knee-jerk" response to opt-out or mandatory telemetry or any other outbound connections I did not ask for being initiated automatically. In a corporate world I would have to block this and depending on what the telemetry is connecting to that could impact other outbound connections leading to contention without the org.

One of the optimal ways to do this would be to opt-in by setting an environment variable to enabled any combination of extra debugging, telemetry, stats, etc... Perhaps even different end-points using environment variables.

If I understand the description of this „telemetry“ in fyns „MANIFESTO.md“ correctly, it does not make outbound connections you did not asked for. It sets the user agent http header to something that identifies your OS, CPU, python version and if you are running in Ci when communicating to the package registry. It does not send any of that to astral, not ist any of that highly personal.

Sure, it should not be there by default, especially OS & CPU imho. But it’s not really what I’d call „invasive telemetry“.

Are you saying that when you tell uv to install a package you aren't asking it to make outbound connections to download the package from PyPI? The telemetry in question is just setting an appropriate User-Agent header with only slightly more data than what browsers traditionally put there. It does not make extra network requests purely for the sake of reporting information.

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