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I keep seeing Heroku come up as a viable alternative to... what? That's the part I don't understand.

The value prop seems to be eliminating ops. i.e. we'll take care of it so you don't have to.

But digging deeper, that seems only to be accurate for Rails apps. If I want to - say - deploy a PHP app (god forbid) - then I still need to play sysadmin.

Am I reading things wrong? I would _love_ if that were the case.

PHP is the exception, but most things are as deployable as Rails these days.

most things are as deployable as Rails these days.

I really, really don't want to seem dense. But I don't understand what that means.

Let's forget about PHP, and consider Clojure. Reading http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2011/7/5/clojure_on_heroku/ I don't see the part that says SysAdmins are no longer needed.

But maybe I am dense, and just don't get what Heroku offers...

The Heroku offering is about providing a stack that you don't need to know anything about in order to look after a decent application. You deploy with Git, give it the resources it needs and forget about it. You've no need to learn UNIX, or anything about packaging, or security, or networking and so on. You just need to care about your application.

Saying this, there's lots of things deployable to Heroku right now, and even more via the Buildpacks system. Yes, at first Heroku was just Ruby, but those days are long gone, most modern platforms that run on UNIX are deployable to Heroku in just a few minutes.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. The process for deploying a Clojure app to Heroku is the same process as deploying a Ruby, Rails, python, PHP, node.js, scala, etc app. That's the basic win of the unified build/deployment/hosting process

How would you get a clojure app deployed on EC2 or Linode without doing a lot more sysadmin work than Heroku?

How would you get a clojure app deployed on EC2 or Linode without doing a lot more sysadmin work than Heroku?

Exactly, thanks.

I thought Heroku was supposed to get rid of that "problem." Did I read it wrong?

Look into "Platform as a Service".

I'm with you on this one. I 'get' that you have the benefit of being able to just 'code' and have it run without you touching anything, but what about your content?

A database on Heroku and other similar offerings such as AppFog, AppHarbor, etc, are really expensive. I'd rather pay 15$/month starting out and install everything I need with simple commands - and I'm not even a Linux-guy! Imagine what a veteran Linux guy would do!

Don't you lose too much control? The last time I tried to deploy a Rails app on Heroku, I couldn't figure out where to save and well, "admin" user uploads on my website. (I was building a 9Gag clone to practice) and it turns out you cannot save data on a Heroku app. You need to pay for YET ANOTHER service such as Amazon content hosting.

So for a full stack you're looking at paying about 80$/month, that includes Heroku, Database, and content hosting. For a lean, mean startup I'd rather just pay 15$ for a VPS and handle things my way.

It's not like it's that hard. If and WHEN I need a service such as Heroku for load balancing, etc when my app reaches critical mass I'll be able to afford it. Not before.

How much is your time worth?

I live in Bolivia, my time is definitely not the same as your time. My cost of living here is SIGNIFICANTLY lower than yours.

We have WordPress (PHP) deployed on Heroku...

I guess this isn't supposed to be launched yet Most of the addons are missing from this, notably NewRelic

Wow, that's a b2b type site which is prettier than most consumer sites (and actually useful).

FWIW, I appreciate the intent to group things (e.g. logging rather than having to read all) but I do _not_ understand why the description is now invisible (needs hovering) and why it's completely unaccessible for the featured ones without navigating away.

Most of the time web pages look far better on my Work iMac, but this is stunningly well designed, it looks perfect on my cheap windows laptop, my phone and my iMac.

I'm wondering why prices and descriptions are hidden ? This is marketplace and I think it should provide nice way to compare prices and services.

I was wondering when they'd get around to updating the addons page. Looks nice and it should help now that there are a lot of competing addons for each category (there's now something like 5 Redis providers).

It was about time! The new dashboard is great and much more comfortable, but looking for plugins was still a pain. Still, Heroku is an option for small/medium deploys IMHO.

I like the new page with the ordering and all, but the old one was way better in giving more information about the addon!

Also, finally they have Addon Search! :D

Nice job Glenn & team :)

What happened to New Relic?

There used to be several logging add-ons, one of which I uses regularly. I hope it's an "oops" and not a change.

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