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Nice - Recommend adding LPDDR variants, info on lead times, currency toggle button, and lastly maybe consider adding other memories commonly paired (e.g. eMMC, NVMe, etc.) but perhaps is out of scope.

This supply crunch is such a fraud - I was on a call with a analyst group covering the memory market and they described the current situation in hilariously depressing corpo speak:

"Pricing dynamics are reflective of coordinated production discipline amongst major suppliers."

I had to give them props, that is one of the most creative ways to describe the pricing fixing cartels.

> production discipline

Is a common phrase in cyclical industries. Increasing production requires huge capex (like Micron's new $100 billion plant in New York), but the reward for that investment are lower prices... A decade ago, during the shale boom people started talking about it and you can find plenty of use in the early 2000s already.

RAM market havoc is handing Chinese manufacturers an open door. They'll generate enough cash to finally catch up with the big guys.

This is not going to end well for Samsung, Micron and Hynix.

Isn’t it about time they get some competition?

A short term benefit from government subsidized RAM will burn you down the road when the Chinese are the only place to get your goods. But I guess that was the original achilles heel of capitalism anyway.

Good?

The fact that RAM got so expensive is a market failure.

Precisely.

Adam Smith is laughing from his tomb.

Or perhaps Anders Chydenius?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Gain

In June 2024, for my home gaming PC, instead of platform swapping to AM5, I decided to coast on a 5700X3D while they were on sale for ~$190 and 32 GB DDR4 3200MHZ for ~$50. Added a 9070XT last year for MSRP but don't remember the exact price.

While it was the right idea at the time (for me), I wonder if I should have upgraded while the prices were a little more "normal"...

No real point here, just complaining to the room.

nah, you have a beast dude, don't regret anything.

If any hobby generates massive fomo - it’s building PCs.

Enjoy what you have! Play games you like. Think about it again in a few years.

I have 2x32GB DDR4 from Teamgroup that I purchased in 2023 for about $100. One of the sticks recently died. The RMA process has been a nightmare, so I looked on AMZN to check and see how expensive it would be to just re-order and replace them. $600. Absolutely insane tbh.

$600 is the reason why the RMA process is a nightmare ;)

So I have an NIB sealed Corsair Vengeance 96 GiB (2x48) DDR5-5600 SO-DIMM and it's looking like $1100 USD would be a reasonable price point given comparables and there's zero supply at present.

It's pretty crazy when computer components go tulip bulbs better than gold.

Crikey I did not realise how bad it was... 8GB of DDR4 is €100?!

Is older stuff worth anything? I might be sitting on a goldmine... (Quick look at eBay - not a lot - non-ECC DDR3 2x8GB selling about £10.)

Which is still slightly useful - I've got two Dell Wyze 5070, fanless, and being able to load them with 16 GB of ddr3 ram each for a song meant they were basically an obvious upgrade from being so cramped for RAM running a Raspberry Pi 4.

https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/5070/

I should probably sort through some old boxes and eBay stuff I've saved for no reason in particular, not like it's (I hope!) going to get any more valuable than it already isn't, and I'm not realistically going to build Frankenstein DDR1/2/3 systems rather than use a more modern and low-power Pi/SBC or NUC for the purpose, even if I need to buy the latter!

If you're okay with DDR3-like memory bandwidth you can get that cheaply on a modern system by getting Intel Optane NVMe/PCIe media (solid state storage much like NAND, but wearout-resistant well beyond even the best SLC NAND) and setting it up as swap. If you're either memory-bandwidth bound (common for local AI, not so much otherwise) or not OK with the power reqs of Optane, you're going to need actual expensive DRAM.

I'm not in the market for RAM (or RAM-like), I just have a surplus of quasi-obsolete hardware!

very cool - if RDIMMs could be added, that would be swell

Hmm. Maybe I should sell half the ddr4 in my pc.

Don’t really need 64gb

doesnt show 24, 48, and 96GB that are quite common in DDR m5 and also faster sometimes.

i have 4x48 6400RDIMM, how much it is now ?

Useful. Which saddens my heart.

I need this for hard drives

https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/internal-hard-drive/

This is a website I like to use nowadays.

Needs to have 48GB SODIMMs

A quick glance at sold DIMMs on ebay makes clear this is just nonsense. What's the source for these numbers?

This is just some vibe-coded crap, isn't it?

I checked the prices for 64GB DDR5. There's some variance based on brand/model but the average and trend seems more or less right. Did you happen to notice that it is about prices in the EU?

This fails a basic smell test: For DDR5, there is only a ~6% price difference between 16 and 32GB. Reality is that 2x16GB goes for about 400 (so that checks out), but 16GB of DDR5 can be had for a bit more than half that (250ish)-- obviously, otherwise people would just buy a 32GB dual channel kit and sell both 16GB sticks at a huge markup.

I just checked again. 16GB DDR5 (291 Euro) to 32GB (519 Euro). Seems right to me and does not match what you reported. Maybe they updated the website by the time I checked.

For the record: When I posted the previous comment, prices at ramtracker were 410ish for 32GB DDR5 (which is realistic) and 380ish for 16GB DDR5 (which is not).

Their price history does not reflect this at all, so I'm not trusting their values one bit.

At best, they changed their complete history to reflect a different product (or basket of products), and while the 16GB-DDR5 category is closer to accurate now, the 32GB is now too high: 32GB of DDR5-6000 can be had for 400ish in the Netherlands (or elsewhere in Europe).

While the .eu should make that more obvious, the text is pretty small/low contrast. Also specifically indicates it's the Dutch market.

https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/ may be more interesting to US users.

They seem pretty similar to the values from pcpartpicker. (https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/)

Probably not tracking eBay but retail stores..

Pcpartpicker has no plot for the 16GB DDR5 category (2x8GB?), which is the one value that makes absolutely no sense in the ramtrack plots.

But if you look at individual DDR-2x8GB items on pcpartpicker, it becomes obvious that ramtrack is just completely off here (why would 16GB be only 6% cheaper than 32GB, that is just not credible).

Source is a Dutch price comparison website. They have a undocumented API where I can fetch price history from. I picked a kit from each category and that's the prices your seeing.

The rest is vibe-coded crap, yes.

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