Neighbors Say SF Tesla Supercharger Lot Has Become Urine Dumping Ground
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Thats the way SFPD worded it to me after repeatedly failing to act on my reports (such as a woman urinating in front of my child on a sidewalk near an sf muni bus stop). Nudity is legal. People have a right to bodily function. Another factor is response time, for this priority the response time can be over 12 hours (if they respond), and obviously they’re not gonna skip trace someone for urinating on a sidewalk after they left the scene.
Most event organizers like bay to breakers race or outside lands provide facilities to mitigate burdens on the community. The city provides its own portable facilities in hotspots. Tesla could easily do it, but is notorious for ignoring regulations or just doesn’t care.
Section 154 generally made nudity on public sidewalks or at bus stops illegal since 2012. Either your story is old or the cops are misinformed.
You either have to find an amicable business nearby or you're out of luck.
That's pretty cheap! I mean, does Tesla expect people to use the toilet at a gas station when they're not even buying gas?
Gas stations around me do not generally have a public restroom due to the sheer amount of abuse they are subject to. The very few that do are the “get a key from the attendant after purchase” variety and you’d only use those in a very very dire emergency. You also have to know to ask and likely be known by the attendant since they all have “no public restroom” signs.
It’s a tragedy of the commons sort of situation. Any business that provides it requires 24x7 on-site personnel willing to get into fights with the homeless, drug addicts, and mentally unwell folks. On top of the normal abuse the general public puts on such facilities. The police will be unlikely to respond to such trespassing calls in a timely manner.
An unmanned charging station would be an epic shitshow in a major city if it had public restrooms. You would be talking multiple six figures a year to maintain such a thing. It’s not a “send a cleaning crew once a day” sort of enterprise.
Hell, even with only ride share and delivery driver demographics it would be untenable. My alley is near a major commercial corridor but not crazy busy - with literally hundreds of trash cans lining both sides of it. Every weekend I’m picking up a couple bags worth of trash tossed out of the windows of DoorDash drivers, and every single night I have multiple drivers on my security cameras taking a piss behind my garage. The latter I understand and I “get it” - but the former is inexcusable since it would take literally 15 seconds to get out of your car to toss the McDonald’s bag into a can if you were assed enough to do so. Heck if it’s too cold out you could simply reach out your window and make it happen if you were so inclined.
If you have a business that involves people staying fir long, you have to have wc. They will need to piss and shit, that is given.
Yes, they are normal in most places - but there are areas public restrooms effectively do not exist due to the amount of abuse they take and the zero political or societal interest in fixing those issues or helping local businesses out with appropriate law enforcement or whatnot.
Around my home every business will have a public restroom, or a not-so-public restroom that's still available if you ask.
That memory has always stuck with me.
Foreigners often complain that public toilets in the Netherlands cost money to use. Apparently in other places people enjoy cleaning toilets for free?
A trillion dollar company can afford it, as can the profits from a supercharger station. Plus, you can limit it to people who are paying to charge their cars (or their passengers).
If they lived in fantasy land with reasonable permitting and running a toilet ment paying for toilet paper, soap, and a janitor to clean it once a day I'm sure they would for the PR win and to sell a few extra Teslas.
In San Francisco as discussed in the article this would be an expensive permitting hassle, endless money sink, target for abuse, bad PR from people complaining about unsafe and unclean toilets, and a legal risk if any incidents happen.
Tons of businesses stop doing business if they are forced into efforts that dont make money. The city/state should own sanitation. Not private companies.
It got rolled back pretty quick.
Plenty of businesses will simply call your bluff for such silliness. They do not exist to solve social issues local government created in the first place.
If local governments can’t even afford to keep public restrooms going at parks, public transit stations, etc. it’s not reasonable to expect businesses to shoulder that cost for them.