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100% not true. Abbas wants a Palestinian state beside Israel. This is what he has supported for a long time. And why many states in the last two years have recognized a Palestinian state: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/mahmoud-abbas-palestinian-pres...

While there was rejectionists in the past, Netanyahu has been the rejectionist for the last two decades. He says so himself:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-boasts-of-thwarting-...

He and his cronies boosted Hamas in part to split the Palestinians so as to avoid having to negotiate a two-state solution:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...

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It's pointless to engage with the argument that one party didn't think it was offered enough so it's right for the other party to offer even less. In never made any sense and it's just one of the myriad rhetorical tricks to twist, muddle and subvert the discussion.

Here is Bill Clinton know what the Palestinians were offered: https://x.com/itscarterhughes/status/2033758202685268373?s=4...

Then you didn't understand. Palestinians can be forced to accept a state with the 1967 borders and Jerusalem East as a capital, as it's proven by the fact that they are forced to accept occupation and apartheid every single day.

But Clinton is of course lying as well as disparaging a whole people with racist remarks.

> Palestinians can be forced to accept a state with the 1967 borders

I don’t know what you mean. Palestinians should agree to accept a deal.

> forced to accept occupation and apartheid every single day.

No. Arabs in Israel have more rights than in any Arab country. Apartheid is illegal under Israeli law. You clearly have very little knowledge of Israel.

Arabs in Hamas and Hezbollah areas have bad lives because of their governments.

> Clinton’s racist remarks

Palestinian is a political identity created in the sixties. Racially these people identify as Arabs, just like the arabs inside Israel. That’s why they chant for “Palestine will be arab”. People should know that as a minimum to participate in any discussion of the middle east.

> I don’t know what you mean. Palestinians should agree to accept a deal.

No, the occupation is illegal and those who are illegally occupying the territory of other people must leave it, period.

Not even bothering to answer the rest of your fantasy propaganda.

> No, the occupation is illegal and those who are illegally occupying the territory of other people must leave it, period.

Why is it an occupation? Arabs declared war on Israel and lost Judea and Samaria.

Do you campaign that Poland and France illegally occupy parts of Germany and must leave the land? Or do you only do that when the state is Jewish?

> Abbas wants a Palestinian state beside Israel.

Have you researched what he says in Arabic, rather then English? In a 2014 interview on Egyptian TV (Arabic), Abbas stated he would never recognize Israel as a Jewish state and could not "close the door" to "refugees" wishing to return.

He's also insane: in 2023 at the UN (in a speech with Arabic elements echoed domestically), he denied proof of Jewish ties to Al-Aqsa/Temple Mount and accused Israel of lies akin to Goebbels propaganda. In April 2025, during a PLO Central Council meeting in Ramallah (televised in Arabic), he claimed the Quran places the Jewish Temples in Yemen, not Jerusalem.

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