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I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working.

FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions).

FF still doesn't have separate processes for tabs, so when one fails, the whole browser crashes.

I find Aurora faster then Chrome and it displays fonts/pages better. I also think the memory use is much better then Chrome. Maybe its the Nvidia acceleration?

Aurora is what, a pre-beta release? And you're comparing it to the production Chrome?

And who cares about memory use on the desktop? I got 8GB, and my browser never even gets close to maxing that out. 16GB can be bought for around $45.

I care about memory use, i've been able to get Chrome up to >8g of memory used with no problems.

Firefox rarely gets over 2g with similar use.

You're saying Chrome uses 4 times more memory than FF. I call bullshit.

When the top 5 processes on my system are chrome, and all over 1.5gigs in size call bullshit all you want. But when I close chrome and 8 gigs of memory is freed, I call that bullshit.

I very rarely experience chrome crashes, but when it happens, it's always the entire browser. I'd be a lot more worried that crashes almost certainly imply security holes than how much it interrupts my browsing session.

I get tab crashes, they look like this:

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Chrome-tab-cr...

I don't remember the last time the whole browser crashed, and I do web development.

It was chrome's marketing earlier now it's Microsoft's. I think they are both great browsers on their own. I find IE10 to be even better and so much faster though.

    FF is slower than Chrome

This isn't the case for me when I have a couple of hundred tabs open, which I usually do.

> I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working.

Are you using FF while browsing? Because I'm pretty sure those MS ads are using User Agent targeting. I would not expect you see any IE ads while already using IE.

> FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions).

This is a misconception held by people that haven't used Firefox as of late. I actually frequently encounter crashes in Chrome, whereas I do not with Firefox.

Not it's actually still very slow. Theres a JS demo ever 3 days on HN that runs terribly in FF. Plenty of other 'pushing the envelope' demos do the same thing to FF. To their credit the FF team is usually here, or finds them, and bugs are quickly reported.

The funny thing is, most users don't care about how their browser performs in "'pushing the envelope' demos" - they care about how it performs when they're browsing the web.

It's not a misconception. Here's a website owned by Mozilla, and even they admit it:

http://arewefastyet.com/

No, that shows javscript benchmarks, not the more ambiguous notion of "browser speed".

Anyway, Chrome and Firefox are tied in Kraken, which is the benchmark Mozilla created to simulate real world loads. (And thus, presumably, the benchmark they care most about when optimizing.)

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