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I think part of this can be attributed to prolonged gut inflammation caused by toxins and parasites. There’s something like 60% of the population has some form of parasite and have no idea, which causes a lot of inflammation and problems. Problems that don’t necessarily point to the gut being the culprit on the surface. So it’s misdiagnosed a lot.

I recommend everyone do a gut cleanse once a year.

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CDC estimates about 60 million are effected by parasites in USA. which is about 17 or 18%.

Gut cleanse, colon cleanse, detoxing. None of this is supported by science. Nor would any of these things cure, prevent or in anyway help a parasitic infection.

Here are some common parasitic infections and how they're treated. None of these treatments recommend gut cleanse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giardia#Infection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii#Treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascariasis#Treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hookworm_infection#Treatment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinworm_infection#Treatment

Gut inflammation can be a problem, but I would not recommend treating it or even diagnosing it without evidence.

Gut cleanses are probably stupid but I wonder if people would benefit from taking antiparasitics prophylactically. It's not something I've ever done, but I eat sashimi pretty regularly and wonder if I should take something like praziquantel because I'm probably at risk for Japanese broad tapeworm, and the symptoms are mild enough I can't really tell without testing, but the price of actually testing is much higher than just taking a drug with a great safety profile.

For similar reasons, I also wonder about people who consume raw milk. These people are more likely to endorse ivermectin for e.g. covid, because it made them feel much better. Maybe it's possible these people aren't lying about that, but not because it cured their covid.

Gut cleanses is really just a herbal medicine protocol you do for a few weeks. Herbal medicine is not stupid, it has been used for thousands of years. Hell even some pharmaceutical drugs use herbs.

I was thinking of the 60% global statistic. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbio...

I had gut dysbiosis for the past couple of years. Went to an alternative/func doctor and she helped me do a program such as this, in a safe manner: https://www.gutprotocols.com/products/full-moon-kit-parasite...

While yes this isn’t scientifically backed, because there’s just no clinical trials yet, doesn’t mean it is bunk. I did a program myself and it fixed all of my problems. My stool inflammatory markers went down drastically, as did my myriad of symptoms that caused me issues every day.

Perhaps I was wrong in strongly recommending people just go do this randomly without any doctor oversight. Whatever. I just wanted to offer my experience because it helped me and can help others. Take it or leave it.

"It is estimated that the global prevalence of some of these diseases already exceeds 60% among the more than three billion people living in parasite endemic areas." https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbio...

This is an interesting statistic, but it is not a global statistic.

Gut cleanses are just marketing. Occasionally eating healthy and then going back to regular unhealthy diet skews the middle point of gut health.

Well for me it killed the parasites I had plaguing me and cured a lot of sickness I was experiencing. To each his own.

If parasites was the concern then countries like Bangladesh would have incredibly higher rates given that people there tend to have orders of magnitudes more parasites than anywhere in the developed world.

And I’m not sure what toxins is supposed to mean and how Americans are more exposed to toxins than developing world children scouring through our electronic garbage on a daily basis

Bangladesh actually had one of the highest parasite rates among children until the last decade.

Parasites are quite a global problem: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbio.... I don’t even know why we’re arguing this.

Now we don’t know what toxins are? Really?

What is a gut cleanse? That sounds destructive.

Doing an ambiguous preventive activity on 1 out of 365 days doesn't sound effective.

These sacrificial two-days-on-the-toilet offerings are like giving confessions to the priest to get back on the good side so you don't have to change your behavior.

Yes I can eat this 4200cal Costco pizza, I did my cleanse last month.

What do you mean when you say “do a gut cleanse”?

fenben, ivermect. herbs like blackseed oil, blac walnut, even organic cloves

I sacrifice a houseplant to baphomet as an alternative

From the company that brought you the Lung Brush.

I mean a program (series of herbal supplements) that can cure gut inflammation and help with digestion, and in some circumstances get rid of parasites. Herbal medicine, things that other cultures have been doing for thousands of years. Do I have to prove that turmeric lowers inflammation in the body? What is going on in this thread lol.

“gut cleanse” obviously is a trigger phrase on HN it seems.

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