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Comment by marizmelo | Hacker News Reader

Java is an excellent language, it has a elegant syntax, but... it's not made for web development. JSP/Servlets development is a joke.

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Those are 1997 technologies, though. Have you looked at

- Play Framework http://www.playframework.org

- Jersey http://codahale.com/what-makes-jersey-interesting-parameter-...

- GWT https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/ or

- Grails http://grails.org/products/ggts

for example?

Not saying any of these are perfect, but it's been 5+ years since anyone had to use JSP/Servlets/Struts.

edit: formatting

So true ... and on the server side you have JEE6 with CDI. You can even extend DI to a GWT client in the browser by using Errai. Life is way easier than it was even 3 years ago.

Here's an article that covers some of that stuff:

http://arantaday.com/the-modern-java-ecosystem

And a bunch of comments here:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3304538

Mentioning Servlets seems pretty out of place here. The Servlet spec isn't a web framework its an HTTP middleware. Its more similar to Rack than Rails. Both GWT and Jersey are commonly deployed on top of Servlets.

Because in the past you had to use servlets directly, or JSPs that you had to do a lot of work manually to separate business logic from the presentation layer.

Source: I worked at a Web startup circa 2000 where we did exactly that. I think people sometimes forget how far we've come.

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