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Comment by pavlov | Hacker News Reader

"Government censorship of websites is good because it reduces Cloudflare usage."

What a take... Only on HN.

Here's another take: The idea that you can only choose between one set of desperate spying and killing fools trying to create a world where they could be totally invincible (with a swarm of lesser demons trying to make a fortune serving them) and another set of desperate spying and killing fools trying to create a world where they could be totally invincible (with a swarm of lesser demons trying to make a fortune serving them) is stupid.

You can celebrate the outcome even if you disagree with the means or the motivations.

The outcome here is still centralized control, which is why people don't like Cloudflare eating the internet. The Russian government doing it instead is the same outcome.

How is it the same outcome?

Not to disrespect you personally, but as someone originally from Russia I'd argue the "cure" of state censorship is worse than the disease of centralisation.

State censorship is a different kind of centralization.

Yeah corporate censorship where your constitutional rights don’t apply is so much better.

But this isn't corporate censorship.

This is Russian government censorship. Where "constitutional rights" don't really apply, either. And probably quite a bit less sueable than Cloudflare.

Correct. As there is nothing stopping the electorate from passing laws and electing officials to change anything about how Cloudflare works.

Of course they may not, but the option is there unlike autocratic government censorship.

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