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Peter Thiel and Jeffrey Epstein Had a Yearslong Relationship

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This war against Iran is really an Israeli and US effort to distract from the high ranking pedos.

The manner in which the U.S. was abruptly dragged in certainly warrants some clarification. Americans stranded, potential allies caught by surprise, no plan, no end game other than complete and total surrender. What does that mean. I appreciate many will have their own interpretations but objectively what does it mean.

I’ve heard from interviews of former gov emps that their understanding is there was months long surveillance and planning.

I heard from interviews on the news in response to comments made by a U.S. Senator that asking for help without being included in the planning is shortsighted. It’s difficult to know why, what isn’t happening, has happened. Something tells me complete and total surrender will be difficult to objectively measure, especially in the longer term. $1b per day before boots are on the ground seems expensive for squishy outcomes.

An Instagram video I saw (yeah I know, great source) said that the idea is to cut off oil supply to China, which was getting it from Venezuela and Iran. That the 2 events are connected is new to me, and it's surprising considering the Trump regime acts seemingly more like a chicken with its head cut off.

But maybe it's all in service to Putin, who will now get to fill his war chest with the profits of the high-priced oil he can sell to China, and India...

Incredibly fanciful and ignorant take

Any further details?

Was Stuxnet a part of this effort?

It is the cause of the war (blackmail) not a distraction from it.

Exactly. Trump is a populist. He backs down on issues he finds are unpopular. But he’s doubling down in his pro-Zionist, pro-Israel, anti-Iran stances. When a populist stops doing what is popular, they are revealing their core values—or in this case, he’s revealing who owns him.

Who owns him?

Israel, because they compromised him through the Epstein operation

According to the report[0] presented by Sen. Shelden Whitehouse, everything points in the direction of Epstein working for Russia.

[0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InWPxsba878

entirely possible, but keep in mind that Epstein's madam, Ghislane, is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, who most certainly worked for the Israelis, and is probably how they got nukes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell

also keep in mind that they people actually running the Trump Whitehouse, various billionares + Stephen Miller, are very Jewish and very pro-Israel. As long as Trump keeps getting his $$$ he'll let them do whatever tf they want

Trying to dilute what's really happening with a broader conspiracy theory isn't helpful.

Isn't what the administration doing directly to influence the case enough to be a red flag?

Let the war be what it is: an incompetent decision that will be costly in all aspects.

I wonder who on the outside of the Epstein operation had the best access to its recordings. Was it Israel (via Mossad)? Was it Putin (via who the heck knows)? Maybe both of them did.

But related to this speculation, I would like to read more about the relationship between those two. There's something rotten in the state of it.

I get the impression that Trump viewed kompromat honey traps as an all-you-can-eat buffet, and Epstein was only a tip of the iceberg. It lessens the individual power each has over you when you can play them off against one another - "Yes Mr Putin Sir, I would love to do that for you but I have to check with Israel and everyone else first". So probably all of the above - Israel via Epstein, Putin via whomever Trump got all those loans from, etc.

Operation Epstein Fury is in full swing and will be over any week now, we promise.

I think that's just the cherry on top.

The main reason is Israel saw an opportunity to take advantage of the idiot US leadership.

Of course it helps that US is just as bloodthirsty as Israel and gets a boner from killing easy targets.

> The main reason is Israel saw an opportunity to take advantage of the idiot US leadership.

"idiot" implies that they did not entirely engineer this situation via Epstein -- which they did, by getting anyone rich and powerful on camera fucking kids

the Russians got some of that too, blackmail material I mean

Maybe New Zealand could revisit his eligibility for citizenship.

I think most people can understand that this is an issue.

But what's the solution?

What do we do about billionaire sex criminals conspiring to dominate children and the entire world?

Prison

There's a bunch of steps before prison that do not work.

The system must be reworked to make it work.

There's even more steps to reworking the system that have been designed not to work...

Yeah, the steps to make the law apply to billionaires too. Systematically and all the time, before they rape teenagers. Like, punish then when they are defrauding first time.

They can't do it without us. First thing is we should probably do is stop helping them.

Step one is making them feel unwelcome in society. Follow them around. Protest in front of their houses. Never let them have a quiet meal at a restaurant. Shame anyone who does business with them. Make Thiel and his fellows sequester in their little bunkers.

if you think protest and shame will work then you've already lost

The point is not to make them feel shame. The point is to make their public life impractical and nerve-wracking. We can’t tar and feather anymore so do the next best thing.

stop selling your life away to make them rich and stop helping the death profits machine alive...

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