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In your mind should people with criminal record be barred from holding jobs forever? At that point why not just exile them?

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I knew this response would come up. Would you be okay to give Sam Bankman-Fried a leadership position? How about Martin Shkreli? Elizabeth Holmes? It's one thing to give someone that made a few minor mistakes a 2nd chance. It's another let a convicted child molester work at a kindergarden. Executives that committed fraud shouldn't be executives again.

I don’t agree because I’m somewhat left leaning and believe in reform (except for violent crime).

I sympathize, and also tend to the left, but please, I beg of you, redefine violence to include long term, intentional creation and operation of fraudulent or harmful enterprise. It takes energy to keep doing things wrong to that degree, and without real signs of behavioral modification that stick, the safest damn thing to do is keep them the hell away.

Violence has a specific meaning, and twisting yourself into knots in order to define things you don't like as violence is dishonest.

> I’m somewhat left leaning [...]

Um, really? If I were to look at your comment history, what would I see?

EDIT: ok, yeah, I actually checked. The threads on page 1 include: 1) this one, 2) "National sales tax would be significantly better than income tax.", 3) "Meta has made more positive contributions to society and the world than every HN commenter combined". Can you feel the left leaning?

How are any of those contradictory?

Big difference between

"barred from holding jobs"

versus

"make it known to the public that they've shown they're not trustworthy enough to be given large sums of investment money"

plenty of jobs for them to hold.

they can drive uber, clean toilets, work at a starbucks, etc

Sorry, as someone who believes in reform this is unconscionable to me. Someone reformed should be able to hold any job (exception for violent crimes of course).

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