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Nice trick. Just a heads up that I had to whitelist your domain as NextDNS blocked it for being newly registered.

Given this thread will probably attract other Unifi users... has anyone had success migrating from MongoDB to something like FerretDB?

I played around with getting this to work a few weeks ago and found that day-to-day it works without issue, but restoring a backup will error since it relies on some unsupported Mongo semantics (renaming collections iirc).

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What does an admin do about NextDNS blocks?

If you subscribe to the mindset of "new domains are likely to be bad" you just deal with a steady stream of allowlist requests from your users until the end of time. There will be new domains until the end of time, and site owners shouldn't be doing anything extra (imo) to justify their existence to admins. If you use a firewall voluntarily and that firewall blocks sites that are legitimate, that's on you, not the site owner.

We get this a lot at my job, where many customers' admins block s3 buckets by default. We give our customers a list of hostnames to allowlist and if they can't figure it out, that's on them.

>If you subscribe to the mindset of "new domains are likely to be bad" you just deal with a steady stream of allowlist requests from your users until the end of time.

Newly-registered domains are not generally an issue with enterprise users. However, they are overrepresented in malicious traffic due to domain-generation algorithms (DGAs).

> Newly-registered domains are not generally an issue with enterprise users.

I take it this means enterprise users are not generally needing to do anything legit-for-work on a newly registered domain.

Enterprise clicks on newly registered domains tend to be (a) being phished or smished or cryptomined or whatever, or (b) someone reading X or Bsky or HN or ProductHunt's vibe code of the date -- things the enterprise would also like to have blocked.

Consider the CloudFlare/Proofpoint/NextDNS/etc. domain block on new domains much like updating one's HN home page to https://news.ycombinator.com/classic …

Sounds like a massive waste of your time for NextDNS admins and a poor UX for end users. If your security relies on trusting old domains, then you need to rethink your security. Also, I bet it's just as easy for you to accidentally whitelist a bad actors as to blacklist a good one. What am I missing here?

I don't disagree. The idea seems to be that newly registered domains are far more likely to be malicious (and not present on domain blocklists yet).

How are you performing backup of FerratDB? Are you using MongoDB tools, or are you using PostgreSQL-specific tools?

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