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Exported all my chats and deleted my ChatGPT account yesterday. The current administration not liking you is the strongest signal I could possibly have to go all in on a particular company.

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I canceled my subscription, but have not yet exported and deleted because I'm an idiot, and also because I'm not sure if deleting it will have any actual impact (is it a hard delete? Likely not, even if they say it is).

And I'm just trying to play out what happens if Anthropic, and Google (if they haven't already), capitulate. Am I just going to forego using the best models and suffer any repercussions of not having access when the people who couldn't care less if the military is using AI for illegal uses continue to leverage them? When I say illegal I'm talking about the surveillance-of-US-citizens red line Anthropic would not agree to. The autonomous weapon one I'm sure there are zero laws against and so that wouldn't actually be illegal.

It’s not a hard delete because for legal reasons, they may have to retain it

Supposedly they hold your deleted conversations/projects for 30 days. If that is true or not, idk, but it was asked when this first started.

Are you able to view your chats through the .html file in the export? Mine are all garbled, like the JSON's not being parsed properly or something.

Asked for an export but still haven’t received the mail with the download link

Took exactly 24 hours for me, on the minute..

Me too, why do they do that?

Thanks, I had deleted the app from all my devices but not deleted the account. I have deleted my account now too.

Eh, they are all morally indefensible.

Anthropic had no problems to do business with the current administration until now. Are we to pretend it was all for happy purposes until now?

Yeah how could Anthropic do business with the democratically elected government of the United States?

Let‘s ignore all the bad things they have done since that, including killing two US citizens.

Even if you don't like the current administration, the rank and file are still out there doing valuable work. The government is more than ICE; it also administers welfare, funds research, collects taxes, and distributes social security payments to the old and infirm.

Easy enough to slap a “not for military or police use” clause on the license, then. Oh, what’s that? They don’t want to do that?

Two white Americans, they've killed multiple other citizens.

Don't get too attached. We're witnessing capitalism in its most ruthless form. Any of these companies will discard their principles the moment it becomes existential.

We are quite literally witnessing someone taking a massive hit for not discarding their principles.

Evergreen dril: "The wise man bowed his head and said 'there's no difference between good things and bad things you imbecile'"

What's your source for this "massive hit"? All I've seen is a massive PR upside, despite what I said above.

Losing a contract with the Pentagon and potentially all Federal-interacting businesses sounds like a pretty severe monetary hit. One which is hard to recoup by a bunch of $20/month consumer subscriptions.

See article: https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-form...

If Anthropic changes course will you move to Gemini? If all models do, local llama I assume?

Mistral is European and has competitive models.

DeepSeek is Chinese.

Avoiding the MAGA collaborators is not as difficult as you make it seem. Foundation models have genuine global competition.

I wish it was just as easy to avoid the terrorist collaborators; unfortunately, the terrorists and their supporters don’t produce anything

Mistral models are competitive? I thought they were far behind

Being model independent and cross-model capable is the required skill.

Anthropic, Google and the rest of them are all just as bad.

Local LLMs gives you the freedom to use a model without a third-party vendor which is the whole point here.

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