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> By downloading and using Zed, you agree to its terms and conditions.

> (“Zed,” “we,” or “us”) and our website at www.zed.dev, along with our downloadable Zed software (the “Software”) and related subscription service (the “Service”).

Very clearly draws a distinction between the editor (the "Software") and their subscription service (the "Service")

> Customer must be at least 18 years old to use the Service.

Is very clearly referencing the subscription service (the "Service") and not the editor (the "Software")

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Notice how I did not quote the "Customer must be at least 18 years old to use the Service" part. That sentence is completely non-problematic. The part that's a problem is the part I actually quoted:

    By agreeing to these Terms, Customer represents and warrants to Zed that: (a) Customer is at least 18 years old

The "Terms" is earlier defined to mean:

    these Terms of Service, the Data Processing Addendum (“DPA”), available upon request, and Zed’s Privacy Policy

So the Terms you have to agree to in order to download the editor, clearly state that by agreeing to the Terms, you warrant that you're 18+. ("Customer" is defined to be a synonym for "You", FWIW).

You cut it off literally just before it specified what that sentence is referring to...

> Customer must be at least 18 years old to use the Service. By agreeing to these Terms, Customer represents and warrants to Zed that: (a) Customer is at least 18 years old

THE SERVICE

> (“Zed,” “we,” or “us”) and our website at www.zed.dev, along with our downloadable Zed software (the “Software”) and related subscription service (the “Service”).

The service == subscription service.

Yes, and you have to agree to the terms of that service in order to use the editor.

Those terms could've just been, "you must be 18+ years old to use the service", and everything would be just fine. But they're not.

"The Terms" is defined to include the ToS document found at https://zed.dev/terms, which are the very terms you need to agree to if you want to comply with https://zed.dev/download. If you cannot accept "the Terms", you cannot download and use Zed. And you cannot agree to "the Terms" if you're under 18 years old. This is not complicated, it should not be difficult to understand.

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