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Elitism Fails American Universities

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I thought I'd submit this as many here are highly educated, but this perspective seems to go uncovered. My own experience as a minority in college was unfortunately similar. Unable to express my views - unable to even discuss them. I understand some views are not worth discussing - chicken shouldn't be eaten raw, etc. I am not referring to views like that.

Personally I see conservatives have drunk the worst Kool-Aid of the "woke", that is they speak the same language of marginalization, discrimination, and it leads to the conclusion that they need some kind of "affirmative action" no matter how much they deny it.

When you are a minority and conservative you get told you don't exist. People refuse to even engage with you.

And I’m sure there is a reason you’re not mentioning those views here and are remaining vague.

https://www.reddit.com/r/onguardforthee/comments/lju0pm/oh_w...

In particular, my views on crime, abuse of the term lgbt, and censorship.

Sure. You're silent on censorship unless it involves white people saying the n-word or f-word. You think the T in LGBT is an abuse and you think people should be able to say n**r on Twitter. But you'll never go out of your way to defend the actual violations of the first amendment because you think they should be silenced. You're a clown in the same way every conservative is a clown. You hide behind "freedom" while trying to remove it from others. You ideology is dismissed because it it the equivalent to anti-vax or flat-earthers. You're probably one or the other or both of those because you "did you own research" as an ignorant fucking moron and decided that was better than what actual scientists have put forth.

I enjoy the core irony of the piece:

* He's correct that liberals are not, in general, smarter than conservatives

* He's wrong about practically everything else

Starting with the title, which was originally "Liberal Elitism Fails American Universities". He starts with ideological buzzwords, illustrating what I think is the real problem: a culture war engaged in by conservatives, which they then blame on liberals.

Conservatives are not less capable, but they are less welcome when they insist on presenting themselves as an oppressed minority. Any time somebody disagrees, it is because their opponent is part of a concerted campaign to suppress their ideas. Not a single instant's thought is given to the idea that they could possibly be wrong.

I have not been in college for a while, and I didn't go to an elite school, so perhaps he is seeing something I am not. But out in the real world I see conservatives continually present themselves as an oppressed minority in a way which is simply out of touch with reality. I don't believe that's inherent to conservatism, but it is a current meme within conservative spheres, and it's self-reinforcing because any refutation is proof of their own oppression.

As I said below, when you are a minority and conservative or even relatively conservative people refuse to even engage with you, and that to me is the point of the article. Ignoring ideas doesn't refute them. Because I want to criticize liberals, I have been branded conservative. Conservatives don't present themselves as a minority, but when you are a minority and don't agree with liberals, you just get treated the worst.

Gosh, I cannot imagine why nobody wants to engage with you.

People like you don't want to engage with me because I disagree with you.

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