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Comment by raffael_de | Hacker News Reader

> Not sure how I feel about this. Motorola seems to be the exclusive provider of encrypted cellular networks and associated devices to the Israeli military [1][2].

makes me feel good about it.

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You're confusing Motorola Mobility with Motorola Solutions. These haven't been part of the same company since 2011. We would happily support devices from Motorola Solutions with their collaboration too but have no contact or partnership with them as they're an entirely different company. We want to support more devices meeting our requirements and if people have issues with one of the choices due to their opinions on geopolitics they can use another.

what exactly makes you feel good about a privacy black hole with the worlds foremost anti privacy captain at the helm ?

The opportunity to be blown up by your phone upon a trigger pulled by mossad. Obviously.

Are you a terrorist? No? Then you have nothing to worry about :)

If you have anything to hide you have nothing to fear, eh?

Former Mossad Chief Yosi Cohen bragged about having booby trapped and otherwise compromised devices in pretty much every country. [1]

[1] https://the307.substack.com/p/former-mossad-chief-brags-that...

This is a fallacious argument that has been thoroughly debunked countless times, and frankly it has no place on a platform where we expect a baseline level of digital literacy. Privacy isn't about hiding crimes, it's about limiting how much power one government has over you. History has shown stuff that’s totally fine today can be treated like a problem tomorrow. A surveillance system built under a “good” government can be handed to a shady one.

all technology companies are to some extent in cahoots with secret agencies. but israel has no room for mistakes, they only work with the best. no doubt they will ask for backdoors. but no phone is safe from governments anyway - grapheneos or not.

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