In a similar fashion, Apple Podcasts app decided to download 120GB of podcasts for random reason and never deleted them. It even showed up as "System Data" and made me look for external drive solutions.
I use my MacBook for a mix of dev work and music production and between docker, music libraries, update caches and the like it’s not weird for me to have to go for a fresh install once every year or two.
Once that gets filled up, it’s pretty much impossible to understand where the giant block of memory is.
I should not have to hack through /Libary files to regain data on a TB drive because Osx wanted to put 200gbs of crap there in an opaque manner and not give the user ANY direct way to regain their space.
You can enable "calculate all sizes" in Finder with Cmd+J. I think it only works in list view however.
du -hs ~/Library/Caches/*And then, should you try to set up OneDrive (despite Microsoft's shenanigans, it does simplify taking care of non-tech-savvy relatives), it will refuse to sync the photos folder because 'it contains another cloud storage' and you'll genuinely wonder how or why anyone uses computers anymore
I downloaded several MacOS installers, not for the MacBook I use, but intending to use them to create a partitioned USB installer (they were for macOS versions that I could clearly not even use for my current MacBook). Then, after creating the USB, since I was short of space, I deleted the installers, including from the trash.
Weirdly, I did not reclaim any space; I wondered why. After scratching my head for a while, I asked an LLM, which directed me to check the system snapshots. I had previously disabled time machine backup and snapshots, and yet I saw these huge system snapshots containing the files I had deleted, and kicker was, there was no way to delete them!
Again I scratched my head for a while for a solution other than wiping the MacBook and re-installing MacOS, and then I had the idea to just restart. Lo and behold, the snapshots were gone after restarting. I was relieved, but also pretty pissed off at Apple.
macOS presents your storage as a black box. You need to bend over backwards to delete things in that black box.
She said "Oh, you bought a toy computer. How cute!"
I've owned every architecture of Mac since then, and I still think of it is my toy computer.
Like, assuming they need the data and it's inconveniently large to fit into RAM, where/how should they store and access it if not the primary disk?
But none of this applies to caches and temporary files, which could be reasonably managed for 99% of users by adding a "clear all caches" checkbox in the reboot dialog with a warning that doing this is likely to slow down the system and increase battery usage for the next few hours, or to system-managed snapshots that mostly just need better UI and documentation.
UI transparency is my only real complaint. A reasonable amount of data the system wants to make difficult to delete is fine, so long as it clearly explains what it is and why. "System Data" is only acceptable as a description for the root of what should be a well-documented hierarchy.
There are two levels above an administrator-level account: 1) the root user can access files that an administrator can't (e.g. the files of other users and certain system configuration files), and 2) the kernel and system processes can access "system" files that even root cannot - this is enforced by SIP.
Apple is quite liberal in what they hide away with SIP. It's possible for disk space to leak whereby the OS has decided to store some file that it doesn't need and there is no way to even list such files without following the above instructions - the only indication will be a mysteriously large amount of space taken up by the system.
It goes without saying that if you're going to delete system files you should make sure you know what you're doing.
Your friend is called ncdu and can be used as follows:
sudo ncdu -x -e --exclude Volumes /System/Volumes/Data/
One would think that's a extremely common use case and it will only grow the more years iMessage exists. Just offload them to the cloud, charge me for it if you want but every other free message service that exists has no problem doing that.
I don't know what the formula it uses is, but it's insufficient.
Note that if your Photos library is already larger than you want it to be, you may need to make sure it's synced, delete it, and create a new library on the drive. It will then sync with iCloud. But that's a hassle, and I would back up the library before you do this.
I'd rather pay for cloud space that I'm already using anyway than having it take up my limited space on my laptop that I can't extend.
I don't want to babysit my attachments or delete old conversations just because Apple doesn't put effort into that app. Probably my fault for still using it, but Telegram, WhatApp and Signal all manage to do it better.
sudo du -sh ~/Library/Messages
Password:
du: /Users/cvaske/Library/Messages: Operation not permitted
Edit: investigating a bit more, apparently the lack of a sudo-equivalent, an "elevate this one process temporarily" command is intentional in the design, so that malicious scripts can't take advantage of that "this is really the user" approval path. I can't say I agree with that design decision, but at least it's an ethos.
Spotify just gave up while trying to show me my podcasts. I can't listen to anything not already downloaded right now.
Yet at 3am I'll be able to download a 100GB LLM without difficulty onto the same device that can't stream a podcast right now.
Unfortunately I don't think 5G is the streaming panacea you have in mind. Maybe one day...
I also prompt warp/gemini cli to identify unnecessary cache and similar data and delete them
That's one way to drive sales for higher priced SSDs in Apple products. I'm pretty sure that that sort of move shows up as a real blip on Apple's books.
Use whatever you like but I don't think Podcast app users are rare by any stretch of the imagination.