Microslop Manifesto
microslop.com
microslop.com
The "GALLONS OF SLOP GENERATED" counter suggests some intentionality, and the "Everything seems to be working. Probably a glitch in our monitoring." caption on the status page maybe suggests that is also intentional.
They wouldnt know what one is if it hit them in the face
The issue with Windows now is the unjustified delays and bugs. I think professional PCs suffer the most from bugs because my own PC works fine. Not sure it's completely Microsoft's fault, could be the company. Sometimes the problem can also be the hardware and it's also not completely MS at fault since many manufacturers can produce PC and at widely varying prices.
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Tiresome.
Now that you mention it, the similarity is more obvious than I thought.
[0] OK, moderate faith, "there's an LLM involved so it's got to be crapware".
Not my downvote btw, never have never will, that's almost as chickenshit as can be. Almost.
I don't prefer slop at all, plus people already know Microsoft has declined more in one recent year than any other, and this Microslop site is kind of a lame response, but it did draw some worthwhile comments. This is the kind of thing that has been on peoples' minds so that's what comes out.
I don't think it's gostsamo promoting his own work, just something he ran across that emphasizes how bad it could get or maybe how bad it already is in some quarters.
Pure slop really and it's bound to get the strongest reaction, but quite interesting when plenty of 90% slop is passing under the radar quite regularly.
// Starting value (high number to suggest ongoing problem)
let currentCount = 8_472_000;This site would be a particularly interesting example to see the conversation that generated it.
There was a case locally where a political party copped flack for using AI generated images of minorities implying that the people in the picture supported their policies. I didn't think the use of AI was terribly significant when it came to the output because, before AI, they would have just hired some actors for the photos and achieved much the same effect.
The thing that I did think was significant was, in creating the images, they must have committed to writing exactly what it is that they wanted an image of. I really wished that journalists asked for that text, and then challenged the inevitable refusal.
-tracker, -alert or -status would be more proper titles.
• StartAllBack heavily modified for WinXP look-and-feel
• Win10Privacy (yes, it handles Win11), with all Windows Store apps yoinked except for store and media utilities
• Raphire/Win11Debloat
• builtbybel/WinSlop
That alone handles a majority of the rip-and-tear I have to do with a fresh Windows installation. Sure, there is a lot more after that, but these seem to handle at least ⅔ of all the heavy lifting.
So honestly, aside from the hour or two it takes to run all of these and confirm everything has been voilently excised, AI isn’t really a high concern for me.
Right now my short-term fear surrounds the OOBE blocking of local accounts on Home/Pro outside of domain usage. There are still workarounds, but who knows how long they’ll last. Currently trying to design a truly universal image that can be flashed/imaged such that any typical x64 system can at least boot into the Administrator account so that other local accounts can be made manually.
It’s funny because I wanted to register this domain for the lulz 3 months ago (Microslop is a fictional company in my videogame Microlandia) but the price was ~15k so i settled for the cheaper microslop.net
Whoever wants to get the message across has certainly big motivations ;)
Could be they are renting the domain instead for a fraction of the cost.
Or at least the mocosoft owener received a ceise and desist by Microsoft and decided to drop the site.
I expect something similar with this site
There's no manifesto ("manifest"??), the counter is completely fake, and the tracker doesn't show any of the user submitted reports.
There's nothing here other than: "Microsoft is integrating AI into their products and I don't like it, build a website about it please". It barely even has anything to do with Microsoft, it's more of a shallow "AI is bad" take.
Is this meant to be satire? It's rather in bad taste if you ask me, I have no idea how it got so many upvotes.
If the organic results are worse then the paid results it means people click on more ads.
If people have to search twice to find what they are looking for it means they show more ads.
I have no idea how google made their products so sticky while dropping the quality.
I have to use Windows 11 at work, it can literally take half a minute before a Win key, then, say, "ou" will find the program Outlook*.
* I was also completely unable to find a keyboard shortcut for New Outlook to filter by 'Unread' without performing a search and respecting the inbox search order etc.. Turns out the filter button just above the inbox is a React component and it can't be called from the Alt - key shortcut.
I think no other company managed to get a punny nickname due to their questionable pursuits and actions around new trends. Tho most of them were ridiculed in memes and countless critical posts on the Internet when something have surfaced.
Also, it appears that Microslop was coined first in 1994, acc. to wikitionary [1]
First it was crypto, now it's things like this, literal slop that helps absolutely nobody, doing the very thing it claims needs to be stopped: polluting the internet.
I get it, everyone wants attention, but figure out a better way, do it right.
Also, "Microslop is a satirical mirror" seems like some heavy lifting on overselling the message here. People need to stop pooping in the pool, so, to bring awareness to this, I will now poop in the pool.
It’s right that slop is real and a lot of present AI is crap, and it’s right about the risks to employment and the economy. But when it comes to the first, it’s wrong that this won’t get better. AI is advancing rapidly.
When it comes to economics, AI is just bringing to a head long standing fundamental problems with wealth distribution and fairness that have been building for a long time. AI might be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, but the camel isn’t looking so hot. Before AI hit big we already had two generations priced out of housing.
The story on journalism and public discourse is, I think, similar. AI might be the last nail in that coffin but the coffin was already closed and the man was already dead. Social media algorithms and man-made disinformation killed public discourse more than a decade ago. Any solution to those problems should also help the slop problem.
My point is that all these problems were nearing crisis level without AI and would still demand solutions without AI. AI might actually help by making them no longer possible to ignore.
Meanwhile all this criticism totally ignores what AI will make possible and is already making possible. Typical human negativity bias.
Remember will smith rating spaghetti? If you ignore the trend line then that is utter blindness.
That being said you can make an argument that AI will flatline in the future. But your evidence for that does not lie in past progress as the past shows a trend line that is clearly upwards.
Weirdness is still there (when you want photorealism), and i think the rate of gross mistakes (at least for stablediffusion) is around the same ~ one in ten, since at least a year (i don't remember what i generated in 2024, but i think it was around the same too). And it still can't get historical generation right. I haven't seen once accurate clothing and architecture when you want to go historical scenes. It's great for fantasy though, which is my main usage, so i didn't wrote about it, but it definitely something that hasn't improved at all. If you want to argue its sightly less weird, i can listen to it (i think it's more desensitization more than anything, but you can have arguments). If you think the rate of gross mistake went from 1/10 to 1/12, maybe you're right and i'm too negative. But historical mistakes in scenes just never change, it is still extremely wrong.
Again the trend line is clearly up.
I'm not ignoring it, I simply haven't seen compelling evidence of the hype.
Even assuming this is true for the high-end productivity models (like Claude Code), how does this change anything about the main argument?
The AI integrations which are getting forced on me in every single app aren't using those newer models: I try them every few months just-in-case and they are always complete garbage. The people generating SEO blogspam sure aren't going to pay for the fancy models either. And it's not like the herders of the AI bots vomiting comments all over social media care about quality. Unless you are an active ChatGPT / Claude / whatever subscriber, most of your day-to-day interaction with AI will always be with the cheapest slop you can imagine - and that's what the backlash is primarily against.
Besides, I don't actually care whether you are stuffing dog poo or delicious tomatoes in my mailbox, I want it to stop! I never asked for it, and it's ruining all the stuff I actually want delivered to my home. Those integrations are at best as annoying as the "Chat with a sales consultant!" and "Let our site send you notifications!" popups: even if your AI were to achieve AGI, I would still want them gone.
History shows he fundamentally misunderstood the human capacity for adaptation. Rather than succumbing to a sea of printed garbage, society developed sophisticated new filters. We invented the modern bibliography, the peer-review process, the concept of a "trusted publisher," and the critical literacy skills required to navigate a world where information was no longer a rare luxury. Humans have an innate drive to seek out signal over noise. Just as the chaos of the early printing era eventually gave way to the Enlightenment, our current struggle with synthetic content will likely trigger a new evolution in how we verify truth and value human insight.
The key here is human thought as you said. Whether these books were written by clerics or printed by the press these were still containing human produced substance. It's not a fair comparison.
Besides, your link between the "chaos of the early printing press" and the start of the Enlightenment is very forced. The Greek philosophers did plenty of critical thinking after all, and they had no need for a printing press. I see absolutely zero reason why the current AI bubble will inevitably result in an Enlightenment-like period, nor why AI would be a hard requirement for one.
So when you say zero reason, I have to tell you that your absolutist stance is blindness. There are many reasons why it can happen, and many reasons why it can’t.
There is also a darker future where AI improves to the point where it’s no longer slop. It produces quality code, texts, and books that are better and in a fraction of a second after one misspelled prompt. Given the past trajectory of AI, this is the more likely outcome.
The other outcome is AI flatlines. This is as good as it gets. In which case the future you predict may come to pass.
Then stop looking at benchmarks and start looking at mirrors.
For a certain kind of engineer, programming was never just a skill. It was the quiet proof that they were capable in a world that rarely offers certainty. You learn the syntax. You master the abstractions. You tame chaos into structure. Machines obey. Systems bend. The invisible becomes tractable. Over time, that competence hardens into identity.
You are not just someone who writes code. You are someone who understands.
Now imagine watching that understanding become commonplace.
An autocomplete becomes a collaborator. A collaborator becomes a generator. The thing that once required years of apprenticeship begins to appear in seconds on a screen. Imperfect, yes. Crude in places. But undeniably moving.
If your sense of self is braided tightly with that craft, you don’t experience this as a tool upgrade. You experience it as erosion.
And the mind does what minds have always done when erosion threatens something sacred. It fortifies. It searches for certainty. It assembles a narrative strong enough to stand against the tremor.
“It’s hype.” “It produces slop.” “It makes more work than it saves.” “It can’t really think.”
In specific contexts, those statements are accurate. Anyone who uses these systems seriously knows their limits. But watch how quickly narrow truths are inflated into sweeping conclusions. Watch how nuance evaporates. Watch how the exceptions are framed as the rule.
When identity feels endangered, skepticism becomes absolutism.
This is not unique to engineers. It is not even unique to this century. Every community that binds meaning to belief has faced the same reckoning. When a worldview sustains status, belonging, and purpose, evidence alone does not dislodge it. The mind will reinterpret what it sees before it surrenders what it is.
Community is preserved first. Truth negotiates for second place.
On Hacker News, coding is not merely economic activity. It is status, tribe, hierarchy. It is the signal that separates builders from observers. And when the boundary blurs, when machines cross it, something deeper than workflow efficiency is unsettled.
People sense the shift long before they articulate it. They feel the ground change texture beneath their feet. The language of critique becomes sharper. The confidence more brittle. The dismissals more absolute.
Because what is being questioned is not only whether the tools work. It is whether the years invested in mastery will still confer distinction.
There are legitimate risks. There is genuine mediocrity flooding the market. There are economic consequences that deserve sober attention. But beneath the surface of many reactions lies a quieter fear: if this continues, what makes me exceptional?
That question is rarely spoken aloud. It doesn’t need to be. It hums beneath the arguments.
History is unkind to identities built on exclusivity. The printing press unsettled scribes. The camera unsettled portrait painters. The spreadsheet unsettled accountants. Each time, the first instinct was to defend the old boundary. Each time, the boundary moved anyway.
What we are witnessing is not the death of programming. It is the democratization of parts of it. And democratization always feels like diminishment to those who built their lives around scarcity.
It is easier to call the tide fake than to admit it is rising.
That does not mean the critics are fools. It means they are human. They are protecting something that once protected them. They are guarding the altar that gave them worth.
But tides do not negotiate with altars.
They arrive.
> Microsoft bans the word "Microslop" on its Discord, then locks the server. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47216047