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This is good. Having an alternative to Pixel-Phones for GOS makes sense. I wonder if we will have the option to buy a Motorola phone with GOS out of the box (not sure if i would trust that, but it might be interesting for some people that are skeptical of installing it on their Pixel by themselves).

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AFAIK you can verify the integrity of an existing GrapheneOS installation.

Indeed you can: https://grapheneos.org/install/web#verifying-installation

Same owner (Google/Alphabet): https://blog.google/company-news/inside-google/company-annou...

I was going to ask wasn't motorola bought and sold so many times that it ended up in Chinese hands. It ended up in Google's hands instead... Ngl, kind of underwhelming from Graphene

Edit: wait, that's old news, it is part of Lenovo...

It ended up in Chinese hands.

That article is fron 2012. According to wikipedia Motorola Mobility was then aquired by Lenovo in 2014, and Lenovo still ownes Motorla Mobility to this day.

Thinkpads are also part of Lenovo and is technically Chinese. But see, which device is recommended for privacy purposes the most because of Libreboot/Coreboot and how much respected thinkpads are in the privacy minded community.

Can't believe I am saying this but a chinese company can be good and an american company can be bad.

Not an exact fan of china, especially their authoritarianism but I am not a fan of america right now either.

For what its worth, a lot of American phone companies also use chinese factories or chinese components and assemble them in India or Vietnam (Apple) and then say that we are making phones in India which while true, isn't the most accurate picture but it keeps the masses happy.

Models recommended for Coreboot are old ones. You can't get it on newer ones or can't even edit the UEFI/ACPI tables on them because firmware is a) signed b) on SMD nvram making it pita to flash

No, Lenovo owns Motorola

Google owned it 2012-2014

Was, they sold it on to Lenovo in 2014.

[ https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-comp... ]

Google sold the company to Lenovo in 2014

Motorola was subsequently sold to Lenovo in 2014.

https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-comp...

Only for two years: https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-comp...

Didn't you read the article? It's kinda hard to miss the Lenovo all through the press release.

They sold Motorola to Lenovo in 2014

No it's not. Google sold Motorola to Lenovo like a decade ago.

Literally the first three words of the announcement that this submission is about are "Motorola, a Lenovo Company".

That is four words.

Come on.

I was gonna be a smartass about how in my native language it would count as three words; but then I went and consulted Wikipedia and it was so dense with linguistics jargon I realized I actually have no idea what a "word" is.

But the consensus seems to be that in English that would indeed count as four words ;P

Cunningham's Law in full effect!

Motorola is a lenovo company.

Atleast in the former moto Phone I had, even its boot sequence included the logo of motorola and then saying, a lenovo company.

It was a google company before 2014 but it was sold in 2014.

Is that still up to date? On Motorola Mobility's Wikipedia page [1] it says

> [Motorola Mobility LLC] is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Hong Kong based Chinese technology giant Lenovo.

Lenovo is a publicly traded company, and according to its shareholding structure report for 2025 [2] its main shareholder is Legend Holdings Corporation. (Lenovo is also listed as a subsidiary on Legend Holding Corporation's Wikipedia page [3].)

Legend Holding Corporation is again publicly traded, with all big shareholders being Chinese according to its 2024 annual report [4]. The biggest one is CAS Holdings with 30% of the shares.

The China Academy of Sciences is owned by the Chinese government.

So it seems like if Google still owns part of Motorola Mobility, it's not a main shareholder.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Mobility

[2] https://investor.lenovo.com/en/ir/shareholding.php

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_Holdings

[4] https://www.hkexnews.hk/listedco/listconews/sehk/2025/0429/2...

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