Comment by darqis | Hacker News Reader

Comment by darqis | Hacker News Reader

Definitely needed, especially in the Fediverse. Holy crap the edgelords there or on Facebook. You comment something neutral, skeptical, response is either straight insults or completely disagreement and then insults, ad hominem or strawman/gaslighting.

Yesterday I dared to write I like X now, it's clean of all the edgelords who went to Bluesky or the Fediverse. Cancel culture on Twitter was over the top. Reaponse, Cancel Culture doesn't exist. My response, it absolutely does. His response, No it doesn't you Nazi something something or other. Err, what?

X has the most up to date information for tech circles.

People on BS mostly repost and rage about posts on X. Fediverse are the different kind of refugees. Mastodon has critical design flaws. It's not a future proof system. And Cancel culture is absurd. BTW 5 people reported me for saying that Cancel culture absolutely exists, all from the same instance. Lol. The hypocrisy is unreal.

In any case, I think people forgot or never learned how to respectfully disagree and have a conversation with people who don't agree with them.

Something like this is direly needed.

Hey, thanks so much for the feedback. We agree. ;-)

One of our goals is to just make the edgelords and trolls go away -- if they want to comment, they have to be nice. If they can't be nice, they can't comment (A gross over-simplification, but you get the idea.....)

One feature we are going to add is a "Here's your feedback, but press here to post anyway" as an option for users to have. At teh very least, make someone stop and think about what they are saying.

"The comment mentions 'Cancel Culture' and uses terms like 'edgelords' and 'Nazi' in a context that dismisses and trivializes serious issues. This reflects a trend in discussions that equates legitimate critiques of harmful behaviors with extreme labels, undermining constructive dialogue and signaling acceptance of toxic rhetoric."

"Using phrases like 'Holy crap the edgelords' can come off as dismissive and disrespectful towards a group of people. It’s better to express concerns about behaviors or actions instead of labeling individuals harshly."

"Describing cancel culture as 'over the top' expresses a strong negative opinion without offering specific reasoning. It’s more effective to explain what aspects seem excessive to help others understand your perspective."

"Using phrases like 'the hypocrisy is unreal' can come across as dismissive and sarcastic, which may alienate others from the discussion. It’s beneficial to explain what seems hypocritical instead of making broad statements."

(I picked the "why it's hard to escape an echo chamber" context option, for full disclosure.)

Thanks so much. This is like gold to us.

The defaults we have set are clearly too high. That comment should be exactly what we should approve. Thanks for trying it.

So this is a good illustration of the problem.

If it were my site, "I like X now" would be a red flag.

I don't think you're gonna AI your way out of this part of things for some time, and it really is the core challenge to content moderation; it's heavily opinion and circumstance based, in a way current models really struggle with.

I appreciate the comments, thanks.

Well, we are going to give it a try!

Thanks again...

I genuinely wish you luck. It's a worthy goal.

(lol, this got "Comment appears to be low effort". Ouch!)

:-)

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