> I was still trying to talk some sense into these people barely two days ago. It's hopeless at this point.

I don't think "sense" is the issue.

1) Are you sure you were talking to actual people and not fake personas or even bots?

2) Keep in mind that there is A LOT of money to be made working for Israeli PR. Some people will take that money regardless of what they know is the actual truth. Some examples:

- Certain social media influencers being paid up to $7000 per post [1]

- Israel boosts propaganda funding by $150m to sway global opinion against genocide [2] [3]

- "[...] a firm called Bridges Partners LLC has been hired to manage an influencer network under a project code-named the “Esther Project.” " [4]

[1] https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-influencers-netanya...

[2] https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/isr...

[3] https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/israel-has-spent-m...

[4] https://www.jta.org/2025/09/30/united-states/israels-secret-...

If you have 3 hours, there's a documentary you can watch, about a man who was sanctioned by the government to kill a lot of "communists" in 1960's Indonesia: The Act of Killing (available at e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDeEObjR9Q ).

It's sort of understandable why the defenders of the genocide have to keep defending it. Stopping doing so today would mean admitting that until yesterday you've been defending utter inhumanity.

A review:

> Joshua Oppenheimer’s The Act of Killing is a challenging documentary. It is not only difficult to watch, but it also probes into one of the most grotesque aspects of human nature: the capacity for self-delusion in the face of horrific atrocities. This isn’t a film about history, facts, or statistics; it’s about the memories of the men who killed, the stories they tell themselves, and how they continue to live with the horrors they’ve inflicted on others. The film’s power lies in its ability to take the viewer beyond a surface-level understanding of evil and into the psychological abyss of those who have committed atrocities—and seemingly moved on with their lives.

From: https://docthisway.com/2024/09/23/the-act-of-killing-review/