Can't we just do this age verification locally on-device? Just some WASM to run a small AI model, which scans face+ID.
I know it'll be easier to bypass, but that does not matter. We're trying to stop children, not adults with technical skill.
I know it'll be easier to bypass, but that does not matter. We're trying to stop children, not adults with technical skill.
But you're on the right track.
I think of a solution like:
1. Browser does one-time age verification through 3rd party service, without disclosing any details about which sites you'll access.
2. Browser stores your age, signed by that service.
3. When a site requests it the browser passes that signed age over. The site simply has to check if it has a valid signature by a trusted authority's public key.
The browser could even use Palantir in this example - but they would never get any data about what users are accessing.
Though I'd prefer the way proposed by Mark Camilleri Gambin (EU politician). Have parents enable Child Mode during device setup, then expose `isMinor = true` to all websites and apps, require a parental control PIN to disable. This is a much better and cleaner solution. Requiring age verification of all adults gets it backwards.
Second one is a lot more sensible.
Unless you think of some extreme outliers. Most of these I met can't READ and follow the step by step procedure.
My passport has biometrics, the government knows everything about me already through the tax system which is "digital". All my other interactions with the government are through digital services.
What exactly would a digital ID allow a government to do that it can't already? Apart from solve all the issues with having to provide scans of (my already digital) ID documents to every bank/solicitor/mortgage broker/estate agent/etc i interact with, where in many my personal ID documents probably sit on a company file share or some random persons One Drive.
A government digital ID with a one-time code to complete verification would solve all of this nonsense.
On control, again, what possible super power would a "digital ID" give a government that it doesn’t have already to control you?
We aren't living with the internet of the 90's any more, it's now owned by corporations and bad actors. Yes, i know it's impossible to stop those that are determined to circumvent restrictions (just as can happen with alcohol or movies) but clear restrictions give parents that want to do the right thing cover when setting rules in their own family.
In the end society raises children not just individual parents, and society need to take some responsibility too.
Personally i don't see how an API call to complete a government ID verification could be used to create a giant "metadata silo", unless the companies using the API are voluntarily sending more data than some sort of one-time challenge token. If the companies are coerced into feeding the government with your account activity history, what is stopping the government forcing that to happen now without bothering to draw attention via a digital ID?
But that's no fun: can't assure control of the children (bad), monetization (even worse) not share with government (the worst, given the current administration).
[0] https://democrats.eu/en/protecting-minors-online-without-vio...
I don't understand. A simple if age<18 check is quite a lot easier to implement than doing age verification yourself, or even shopping it out to some other "partner".
What I meant is that it doesn't exist yet. It'd require operating systems, apps, browsers, etc, to all implement this system before a company like Discord can actually use it.
None of this matters anyway. If a 15yo boy wants to see boobs on the internet he's gonna find a way. There's so many ways to muck with the connection. Not to say these age verification checks work either; the recent usage of the Death Stranding character's face to bypass the checks is evidence of that.
The problem is, it doesn't give a legally-enforced monopoly to any rent seeking data brokers, and it doesn't act as a foot in the door for requiring government-ID attribution of all internet activity everywhere.
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurit...
Shows that it was certainly possible, so the question is: do you believe in the power of 4chan?