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a) Go is open source

b) Not sure why you've included Microsoft in your list. The C# specification has an ECMA and ISO standard.(ECMA-334 and ISO/IEC 23270:2006)

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Java is open source too and C# is not the only corporate language from MicroSoft.

Go and the go std lib are licensed under a bsd license, which is a more liberal license than java and the jdk and would avoid things like the oracle lawsuit against android.

So yes, just because it's open source doesn't mean much, but it's open source with a very liberal license, which does mean something.

How does the BSD license avoid something like the Oracle lawsuit against Android? From my understanding it wouldn't have made a difference.

The Oracle lawsuit is based on the Java ME licensing restrictions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embedded_Java#Licencing_restric...

A pure BSD license does not have these restrictions.

Originally, the Oracle lawsuit had some patent claims in it, IIRC. They were thrown out though. I can't recall if they were thrown out by the judge or if Google spent the time/money/lawyers to get them invalidated.

Any open source language, even those not affiliated with a company, could be vulnerable to that though.

Now, in this particular case (for those who can digest legalease): http://golang.org/PATENTS

IANAL, I don't think that's true for the Apache license, because it includes a clause that explicitly reassigns patents (or at least licenses any relevant patents).

Java is open source by the completely literal meaning of this word, but it is not in the spirit of open source, i.e. it is not free software (as was recently demonstrated by Oracle's lawsuit).

It wasn't Free Software, but is now (more or less). IcedTea / Java 7, as shipped by Fedora &co, is entirely Free Software[0].

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(software_platform)#Free_...

In case you're forgetting history, Java only went open source very recently (2007, only really usable in 2008)[0]. For much of its life, it has been a closed source language / runtime.

Nothing against Java, now, but it's not a fair comparison to Go. (Disclosure: I was an early Go contributor but no longer use it for day to day work. I have no affiliation with Google.)

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(software_platform)#Free_...

Another example (it's ignored far too often) is F#.

From Microsoft, open source under the Apache License for all I know. And it's one of the 3 big, supported, here to stay .Net languages, comes with full VS support etc..

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