4o was ridiculously agreeable. It would go along with anything: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43840842 The last time they moved to deprecate it there was a similar backlash which resulted in them reversing that. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44842147 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44839842

OotB, it had a more creative voice and less safety systems built in. I think these folk could wiggle around the prompting for modern models to be better if they were more savvy.

For example: Silly Tavern users with jailbreaking, advanced prompting, and paramter hyper-optimization.

Maybe that wouldn't appeal to this kind of user anyway, since it'd peek too much into the sausage factory? Who knows.

Read the reddit post.

It would feed into delusions about being that user's boyfriend while the new model is rightfully saying none of it was really true.