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Why are Zulip and Mattermost not considered here? To be clear I am a former Mattermost user who would no longer recommend them, but considering Zulip now as a replacement

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https://github.com/zulip/zulip/issues/6096

Still not implemented.

The post is "Discord alternatives" so it strikes me as strange for only E2EE capable chat apps to be supported.

No, it isn't.

Dang moved all the comments from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46979742 to this thread so now it's confusing.

Thanks, that was confusing. Anyway I loved your writeup, I hope alternatives will be built (alas, I've tried with Mattermost, but I'm not proficient enough in Golang to maintain a fork on my own)

Maybe they are not for furries?

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