SSL and the Future of Authenticity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Wl2FW2TcA
What's the status of the Convergence SSL alternatives that were going to be built into Chrome/FF?
SSL and the Future of Authenticity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Wl2FW2TcA
What's the status of the Convergence SSL alternatives that were going to be built into Chrome/FF?
The internet draft and reference code can be found here: http://tack.io
The obvious problem with that is that you have to call in a favor from Google to get that level of security. TACK is a mechanism that allows any site to get something comparable.
Another attractive thing about TACK is that it follows a model that other security features in the browser already use. For instance, the HSTS header is a widely-supported feature that allows websites to instruct browsers to remember that a site is intended to be reached only via HTTPS. TACK does something similar, but with a much more useful assertion.
TACK is designed to alleviate that pain for the site owner by providing flexibility, and by eliminating even the CAs the site uses from its scope of exposure.
The latter helps the former by making it easier to deploy. If TACK were the norm, then the only purpose CAs would serve is to introduce clients to websites they have never seen before (rather than authenticating every single connection to a website during every page load to that website).
By taking a bite out of the problem, we feel the remainder will be easier to solve. And yeah, hopefully we can position convergence as that solution.
It's also easier to get TACK done with browser vendors, simply because it's well encapsulated as a TLS extension, is fairly uncontroversial, and requires them to write less code. Basically, we feel it's a good first step.
However what happens if the MITM attack is on the other end, in other words somebody has got into a hosting providers network and is MITMing a bunch of traffic to some of their servers.
They could use this to pass back bullshit certs/public keys to all clients (including notaries) who connect to servers they have MITMd.
One way to prevent this of course would be to have the server keep it's own list of notaries and self-check every so often and alert clients if something appears wrong.
However here you are relying on server administrators keeping this configured and working. I could imagine less scrupulous administrators on strict SLAs disabling this and letting it fail in a way that is silent to the end user to avoid downtime. This would be more difficult to do with the traditional CA structure since the attacker would need a valid cert for the site or would need to SSL strip everything (which would eventually get noticed).
Or do I have this wrong and it is intended to augment the existing CA structure rather than replace it?
edit: http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2012/05/tack.html helps (i was missing that it is in addition to tls, so it's like perspectives / network notaries, but over (limited) time, for a single client, rather than over multiple clients)