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I can understand your POV. My parents were atheists. Then, in college, it was just assumed everyone was one. So, I just accepted that as truth. I went on to read all the philosophy and religions. I always avoided Jesus though because honestly his name was a "bad word" in my crowd. Then, a few years ago I picked up the Gospel (nothing else) and decided to read it for informational purposes. And, it stuck with me. Then, I kept reading more and more, and realized that it was all cohesive and coherent. And, for years I tried to find flaws, but it was just too good and life changing and real.

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I too like some philosophers. One or two of them were writing back in the iron age. But I don't worship them.

exactly - the worship part is essential, having obedience to good

Ideas should speak for themselves and compete fairly on their own merits, and there should be no faith.

What I mean is that for some people, the Gospel toggle some previously unknown bits in the brain that activates and transforms them. And, worship just becomes what they do. It's the freedom of it - they become unshackled. I really don't know how to describe it in a way that my previous atheist self would understand.

How about "shackled" instead of "unshackled"? That might make the thing you're describing seem less extraordinary.

You seem to have an almost religious devotion to your worldview. Which makes sense: it works for you and you feel compelled to convince others. You also limit yourself to thoughts and practices that align with these views. Imagine for a moment that this is also true of other people for other beliefs.

What are you trying to argue? This is nonsensical.

> It's the freedom of it - they become unshackled.

Slave. That's what you describe.

I'm not attacking you when I say this: drugs can get you there, too.

If you read about early christianity (which I did for 18months), you will see that the "gospel" is a mess.

If you couldn't find flaws, you are clearly biased. Even religious institutions have found flaws. The contradictions are so well published that you have to ignore them to not know about them,

I don't think you have any true knowledge of the history of your faith (said the atheist).

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