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Comment by hn_acc1 | Hacker News Reader

Is that the official Tesla stat? I've heard of way more Tesla fatalities than that..

There are a sizeable number of deaths associated with the abuse of Tesla’s adaptive cruise control with lane cantering (publicly marketed as “autopilot”). Such features are commonplace on many new cars and it is unclear whether Tesla is an outlier, because no one is interested in obsessively researching cruise control abuse among other brands.

There are two deaths associated with FSD.

This is absolutely a Musk defender. FSD and Tesla related deaths are much higher.

https://www.tesladeaths.com/index-amp.html

Autopilot is the shitty lane assist. FSD is the SOTA neural net.

Your link agrees with me:

> 2 fatalities involving the use of FSD

Tesla sales are dead across the world. Cybertruck is a failure. Chinese EVs are demonstrably better.

No one wants these crappy cars anymore.

I don't know what he's on about. Here's a better list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashe...

Autopilot is the shitty lane assist. FSD is the SOTA neural net.

Your link agrees with me:

> two that NHTSA's Office of Defect Investigations determined as happening during the engagement of Full Self-Driving (FSD) after 2022.

Good ole Autopilot vs FSD post. You would think people on Hacker News would be better informed. Autopilot is just lane keep and adaptive cruise control. Basically what every other car has at this point.

"MacOS Tahoe has these cool features". "Yea but what about this wikipedia article on System 1. Look it has these issues."

That's how you come across

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