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I don’t get it. You can do that with the Claude app or ChatGPT too. What’s the value add?

Edit: oh I see. It’s local. So privacy. Quite a good value add actually.

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What privacy? If you're using ChatGPT or Claude, your chats are still logged.

It's local, meaning it uses local models, what they said in the sentence prior to the privacy one.

From what I've read, OpenClaw only truly works well with Opus 4.5.

The latest Kimi model is comparable in performance at least for these sorts of use cases, but yes it is harder to use locally.

> harder to use locally

Which means most people must be using OpenClaw connected to Claude or ChatGPT.

Unless you have unusually powerful hardware, local models will unfortunately currently not really cut it for Moltbot.

OP implied they have powerful enough hardware, since Kimi runs on their computer, so that is why they mentioned it is local. That it doesn't work for most people has no relation to what OP of this thread said. Regardless, you don't need an Opus level model, you can use a smaller one that'll just be slower at getting back to you, it's all asynchronous anyway compared to a coding agent where some level of synchronicity is expected.

GGP seem to be under the misapprehension that privacy is a core aspect/advantage of OpenClaw, when for most users it's really not.

So yes, I think the majority user experience is very relevant.

This thread is about giving one's opinions on their personal experiences with the tool, so the OP of the thread can say whatever they want, it doesn't mean they think it's at all related to the "majority user experience" nor do they have to cater their opinions towards that.

GLM 4.7-flash does very well although OpenClaw has some work to do for CoT.

It's the other way around. At least for most people, it grants access to your personal data to an LLM (and by extension its inference provider) in the cloud.

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