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> There's an immigration checkpoint near my house. I've had to present my ID. It took all of 5 minutes and then I moved on with my life.

There's a very real possibility now that if you have the wrong physical attributes, encounter the wrong federal agent, or (in the near future) are insufficiently loyal as deemed by some unaccountable bureaucrat, that it may not take five minutes, but instead quite a long time, when at that checkpoint you are instead arbitrarily and illegally detained, whisked away to some holding camp several states away, and held without access to counsel or due process for some indeterminate length of time. Draconian immigration enforcement is currently used as an excuse to habituate people like you to arbitrary inspection and force. You're going to miss the rule of law when it's gone, so now would be a great time to stop being obtuse with this left-right culture nonsense and instead support the protection of all of the people's constitutional rights.

Ok, well you are only saying this because you are scared of being whisked away. These agents and bureaucrats are fair people, especially compared to Alex Petti.

If they aren't fair, then they will gain experience over the years and eventually become good.

Now consider my attributes: I look Chinese, I will encounter agents throughout my life, and I am a free thinker (loyal only to the white in red-white-and-blue). What changes about the world if I get whisked away, and why shouldn't I sacrifice myself for the greater Good?

The law is gone for many when unenforced and also not gone for many. I am exhausted when repeating this, but law is not mathematical, it is meta-physical and Gone with the Wind, bringing us back to a romantic time of order when resources where plentiful, order was stable, yet mobility was hopeful, in the eyes of many. How harsh would it be to take that away from millions of Americans.

Yet think about how selfish your thinking is. Do you really care about the law? Or are you worried that you may be targeted next, and unwilling to handle even a tiny bit of sacrifice that millions of Americans have endured for years?

Either this is masterful satire or I should be asking you how the weather is in St. Petersburg, eh tovarisch? (no offense to the poor folks who live there and aren't paid to troll Internet fora).

Well said. How many more Americans have to die before these fanboys realize the topic here has very little to do with immigration? TDS, indeed.

Ok, and why are those Americans dying?

Consider an unfortunate Uyghur situation in China, where 10+ people died at the hands of knives in the mountain city of Kunming, 1000s of miles away far away from the desert.

And how many Americans have died? 2 where video obviously shows escalation from those without weapons.

America is an orderly country and those with guns are holding back. Poke, poke, poke. Pull, pull, pull. Those who play video games know how automatic it can be. Yet these officers are not doing it.

Yet why is everybody screaming and kicking? At whoever they feel they can scream at?

Now let's flip a perspective. Consider the General Secretary says, "your way of life is like a drug" [1]. If the only way you know how to fight the state is to kill, the economy is blocked by Extremists, politics are blocked by Extremists, only knives are open to Centrists, what can you do? You can only poke, no?

So we must hold empathy for the right lives, for the right matters, and for the right centrists. Power should centralize among those who are right, and the wind of history will flow in the right direction. That is the Destiny we rightly Manifest.

[1] https://uyghurtribunal.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Transc...

There is always some rationale. Nobody ever thinks of themselves as a villain.

But to answer my own question, your number is clearly higher than two.

Your answer is correct. It was an interesting journey, scrolling up to read your own question and down to read your answer.

I wonder how those 1000s of years ago would be impressed, by my hunched back and finger movements.

Good luck in persuading those you see as a future villain.

It's not society's fault that you have bad posture.

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