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DHS ramps up surveillance in immigration raids, sweeping in citizens

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Hey, at least we live in America, and we’re not invited over for tea! And we don’t have all our biometrics scanned for use for government tracking. It’s just to guarantee our liberty.

Land of the free, home of the brave, digital cage proudly made in the USA!

A pseudonymous writer NS Lyons has been writing about how China and the US are converging in how they treat their citizens. A few years ago it would have raised eyebrows, but now it’s a suggested read.

https://open.substack.com/pub/theupheaval/p/the-china-conver...

> A few years ago it would have raised eyebrows,

only for people who never heard of Snowden or room 641A

It’s I guess too political for HN but these guys absolutely want to be the Gestapo and are trying their hardest.

I wonder if some tipping point has been reached. At the beginning of the week I thought "This regime is doomed, no way the populace will back down now.". But of course the regime is not going to give up without a fight, there's a high chance of ending up in prison (if you're lower down the food chain, a higher chance, if you're pretty high up, I guess Fox News will still pay you to spit out propaganda), so I don't expect the violence to abate. (Would you rather be in jail, or invent all sorts of justification why being a henchman of a fascist regime is "fine"?).

I wonder how much more violent the oppression will be. Aren't we already in uncharted territory? (I guess civil rights warriors of the 60's will be laughing at that idea...).

The 100 mile "Constitution-free zone" 'policy' has long been a problem, not because it was abused, but because it had the propensity to be abused, and here we are, seeing it abused.

With the current Supreme Court doing everything in its power to require the hardest road possible to righting constitutional wrongs, this is going to take a lot of time and money by regular folks to fight and to hopefully -- at some point -- stop this abuse of power.

The interior immigration raids at issue here are unrelated to the border search exception and generally outside of the associated 100-mile "border zone" that exists under executive policy and that the courts have found reasonable absent more specific rules from Congress.

The tactics have been unnecessarily brutal with weak results. That 6 week stay in Minnesota stay netted a 3000-6000 thousand people. If they wanted to deport a million a year they would need to do 3,000 a day.

The problem is they don't have enough dhs agents and are using the border guards who don't have that training and the local police won't help because they have been order not to. I think with the changes in leadership we are going to see less brutal unnecessarily actions less social media taunting but more deportations in a more humane way.

In my country during WW2 the Germans did on a few occasions literally surround cities and went door to door in order to round up men for slave labour.

But that kind of manpower takes the military. And ofcourse the Germans didn't mind shooting people who resisted. They were by that stage not trying to win hearts and minds.

fly your flags , half mast and upside down untill they get the message.

unless you have not noticed, almost all of the world is backing away slowly, and discussing amongst themselves how everything that has happened in the last 100 years, needs to be reassessed and reframed with the US bieng uncle sam the boogy man.

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