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Wishful thinking but it would be real great if a future leader destroyed this infrastructure.

I'm sure they'll run on not using it but when systems like this exist they tend to find applications

Wishful thinking but it would be real great if an engineer poisoned these datasets with bait entries

It’s not gonna happen. The people who work at Palantir, if they’re not just there for the money, think they’re doing the right thing, they see themselves as keeping the country safe and improving government efficiency (and who could be against that?)

Nobody thinks that. They are there for money.

Even Peter Thiel?

Especially Peter Thiel. Now we are not saying he doesn't internally agree with many things that are happening (I don't mean this specific topic but rather overall direction of US society), we know he does.

That’s just not true. There are plenty of people in defense tech that clearly believe they are doing the right thing. Same with those in the military. Their version of “right” is just different than yours. To them, ensuring American hegemony is more right than whatever your definition is.

This is exactly right and why it is so dangerous. The bad guys dont think they are bad. The opposite is true.

There is the expression the road to hell is led on good intentions line with the heads of bishops.

Those material interests are very persuasive though. Without them, who knows what they might believe.

You would be surprised how pilled some people are. It’s unfortunate.

Money, or these IT folks derive pride from the technical challenge of building the tool, whatever its purpose. Or both.

50% of the US think it's the right thing. Now sure, among educated urban people it was lower, but that's still a large number of people who think it's the right thing, and that executing american citizens for using their constitutional rights is at most "an unfortunate inevitability"

Yes. These are the same people that will cry about chat control while pushing heinous privacy violations for their right wing overlords.

Many "libertarians" seem to be far more concerned about the age of consent than the size of the military or police force for some reason.

We need more René Carmilles and less of the typical HN techbro that champions the technology, and charitably, doesn't care what its used for.

The “opposition” has never not funded ICE. Throwing out national level republicans is not enough, almost all national level democrats have to be thrown out too.

> The “opposition” has never not funded ICE.

The current administration’s ICE chaos theater is clearly something very different than the past few administrations. Let’s not try to pretend this is normal, because it’s not. They’re doing a shock and awe campaign and maximum fear and news coverage are part of the new agenda.

These tools are there to make sure no such leader ever gets to power, and to ensure the death of the free state. Luckily there's a constitutional amendment (and therefore a constitutional duty upon true Patriots) that has a patch for such regressions.

Reality is that once the next group is in power they keep all the same infra in place so they themselves can use it oft expanding it further. Then when they are kicked out, the next one comes in and does the same.

I dont like any of it but patriot act, covid vaccine tracking, flock, etc are all arms of the same hydra. This is just one more expanding arm of power and control in a long history of gov attempts to control populations.

Destroying Medicaid would in fact solve the problem, that's true.

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